ACCEPTANCES November 12, 1983 A.S. XVIII

 

Kingdom of An Tir

 

*Ryugen Morite. Correction of household name to Household Kuroboshi; formerly Kuroi Hoshi and household badge. Sable, a mullet of eight points surmounted to dexter base by a Japanese stream argent.

 

 

Kingdom of Caid

 

Aelfred Járnstarfursson af Stöng. (name approval only; see RETURNS for device).

NOTE: In England one does sometimes find bynames formed as patronymics using the father's occupation, but if you are trying to do an authentic Norse name (i.e., from Norway or Iceland), it would be better to either use the father's given name or to use Járnstarfurr as an occupational byname.

 

Alysoun Windsong of Shadow's Dance. Sable, three piles in point argent, each charged in chief with a mullet pierced sable, overall a horse's head erased gules.

NOTE: In cases where an overall charge lies over several charges in such a way as to have nearly all of the overall charge lying on those charges, I am willing to consider granting an exception to the normal requirement that charges overall and surmounting contrast with the field. In this case, given the good contrast between gules and sable, and the fact that nearly all of the horse's head is on the piles, I do grant an exception.

 

Alexandre de Champagne. (submitted as Aramis Alexandre de Champagne). Per pale Or and purpure, on a fess two fleurs-de-lys, all counterchanged.

NOTE: Excellent heraldry. Aramis was the unique nom de guerre of the Musketeer in the Dumas stories. It was not a period given name. I have therefore deleted it.

 

Astrid von Drachenfels. (submitted as Astrid Geburtshelferin von Drachenfels). Per bend rayonny sable and gules, a dragon segreant Or and a dove volant to sinister, maintaining in its beak an olive branch argent.

NOTE: Draw the dragon as properly segreant and draw its wings larger so they are visible. Just as a person in the SCA may not use a medical symbol unless s/he is medically trained, so a submittor should not claim to be of a medical profession unless s/he is in fact medically trained. I have therefore deleted Geburtshelferin (midwife). If she is in fact medically trained, then I will put it back in.

 

Athelyna Estrid Nimblefingers. Vert, on a plate between two crescents argent and an estoile Or a horse's head couped to sinister gules, all within an orle Or.

NOTE: The use of five different types of charge is somewhat excessive and therefore poor practice. Since the device is symmetrical, I accepted it, but it would be much better if it were simplified.

 

*Caid, Kingdom of. Title for Green Water Pursuivant name approval only.

 

Cassio Bruno di Bartolomeo. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device.

 

*Ceridwen Dafydd. Name change; formerly Ceridwen ferch Dafydd.

NOTE: Batonvert stated that two Welsh given names could be combined in a crosscultural name where a Welsh family moves to England. I have therefore deleted the "ferch" I inserted in my September 1983 LOA&R, thereby making the name closer to what was submitted.

 

Claudius Brutus di Bartolomeo. Per pale gules and sable, a wolf rampant to sinister, maintaining in sinister forepaw a Morningstar, enarched to chief, all within a bordure engrailed Or.

NOTE: Good heraldry.

 

Dimitri Mosheloff. Submitted as Demitri Aldebaran Mosheloff the Argonaut. Per fess azure and vert, a fess wavy argent between a plate charged with a compass star gules and an Argonaut shell argent.

NOTE: Demitri, is Greek (the Russian form is Dimitri). Aldebaran is Arabic. Mosheloff is presumably Russian (I would have liked to see documentation, as it doesn't seem to be correct Russian form). The Argonaut is English. This is four languages. The Argonauts were the sailors of the Argo, and no others. You may not claim to be one of them. Until such a time as somebody shows that the names of stars were used in personal names, they will still not be allowed for use in SCA names. In order to register the device, I will register it to Dimitri Mosheloff, a reasonable Russian name form. The argonaut shell is essentially argent, so I blazoned it that way. (If he really wants it proper, he'll have to send us the genus and species.)

 

Diana Thjodhild. Submitted as Diana Thjodhildaf hin Silur Havalurtönn). Azure, a bull seal sejant Or, maintaining in its dexter flipper a narwhal tusk argent.

NOTE: Please document "af hin Silur Havalurtönn." I have deleted it for now. (I do not find the words in my Norse/English dictionary.). If proper documentation is sent to me, I will add the byname back in.

 

Donnchadh Cameron the Unforgiven. Or, on a bend gules between two thistles, slipped and leaved, proper a shepherd's crook Or.

NOTE: Good heraldry.

 

*Eileen Rahel do Pico. Name change; formerly Eileen Rachael do Pico the Candlemaker.

 

Elizabeth Carpenter of Rye. Argent, a mole tergiant descending proper within a bordure vert. (Talpa europaea).

NOTE: Nice heraldry.

*Grimarr of Nordheim. Name change; formerly Everard Meade of High Valley; this name submitted as Grymnir of Nordheim and badge. Sable, a sea-serpent's head issuant from a bar abased, engrailed to chief, invected to base, Or.

NOTE: Grimnir was the name used by Odin in the Lay of Grimnir and thus may not be used. I have changed it to the valid form of Grimarr. You could also use Grimr, Grimolfr, or Grimkell. Voiding a chief or base simply results in a fillet or a bar abased. A single bar can be used when conjoined like this and moved away from the normal fess position.

 

Iomhar MacThaimhis o Chairngorm. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device.

NOTE: The proper Gaelic usage for "of Cairngorm" is "o Chairngorm."

 

Juliana FitzWilliam. Per chevron sable and Or, two unicorn's heads couped at the shoulder respectant and in saltire two arrows inverted counterchanged.

NOTE: Raise the line of division. As drawn, it looks like mantelé.

 

Marco Valerio di Bartolomeo. Or, a castle sable between in pale two roses, all within a bordure embattled gules.

NOTE: Good heraldry, (The three brothers are to be commended.)

 

Mordock von Rügen. Quarterly Or and sable, a hawk displayed, in chief a sword fesswise reversed, between two mullets of four points, and in base a mullet of four points, all counterchanged.

NOTE: Mordoch would be better German.

 

Morgana ferch Dylan of Llyn Llachar. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device and household badge.

 

Renée de la Forêt Française. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device.

NOTE: This is really not proper usage. It would be much better if you were from a particular forest, not "the French forest." If a place was called "the French Forest," it would likely be done so by a different nationality.

 

*Rosemary Willowwood of Ste. Anne. Name correction; formerly Rosemary W. of Ste. Annes.

 

Soraya Evodia of Odessa. Gules, an escarbuncle and a chief indented Or surmounted by a fillet dancetty floretty counterchanged.

NOTE: This is unorthodox, but very pretty. A fillet surmounting a chief is understood to straddle the edge of the chief.

 

Taliesin d'Acre. Sable, a cross of Jerusalem and on a chief argent three Maltese crosses gules.

NOTE: Good heraldry.

 

Kingdom of Meridies

Aelfwyn of Caer Leol. Sable, a pegasus salient and in dexter chief a mullet argent.

NOTE: The more correct feminine form would be Aelfwynn; the masculine form would be Aelfwine. The correct earlier name for Carlisle was Caer Luel.

 

Arthemal Haricourt Oldecastille. Per bend sable and argent, a bend embattled counter-embattled erminois between a bee volant erect Or and a bottle vert.

 

Audrey fitzwilliam of Treville. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device.

 

Crystyna Hyrundo. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device.

 

Damien the Swift. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device.

 

Ealdreda Eardstapa. Quarterly, sable and argent, surmounting a cross between four crosses potent counterchanged a cross potent gules.

NOTE: Good heraldry.

 

James of Greycastle. Azure, a bend bretessé' argent between a sword inverted bendwise and a double-headed battle axe bendwise proper.

NOTE: The axe would have better contrast if it were all argent.

 

Margaret Penitone of Ravenglass. Per fess argent and azure, in pale an oak tree eradicated vert and a crescent argent.

NOTE TO PENNON: On the emblazon sheets sent out with LoIs, all devices and arms must be on a heater shape and all badges must be on a roundel. This is so the commenters can tell at a glance what the submissions are. The submittors may otherwise display their submissions in any form they wish.

 

*Marion du Rouge. Gules, a pale argent, three doves migrant palewise counterchanged.

NOTE: Device appeal. While I agree that the Meridies heralds were at fault in the long delay with this submission, this particular device, with voided doves, would not have passed in 1980 either, on the grounds that the voided birds are not recognizable. I therefore have accepted her alternative choice of dropping the voiding.

 

Morgan Alyn Alwyn. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device.

 

Robert of Nighthawk. Sable, two falcons statant respectant Or, supporting a sword surmounted at the pommel by two swords in saltire crossed at the hilts proper.

 

Tiphaine of Snowcroft. Vert, a snowflake between three Arctic terns volant to sinister argent.

NOTE: Draw a correct snowflake with 6-armed symmetry. This is otherwise nice heraldry.

 

Thorbjorn Wulfgrimmssønn. Per fess embattled azure and Or masoned sable, a chief arched Or.

NOTE: Nice simple heraldry.

 

*Thor's Mountain, Barony of. Badge. Azure, three stone throwing-hammers in pall, handles to fess point, argent.

NOTE: Good heraldry.

 

Vigbrand of Scandia. Sable, two winged stags combatant, each maintaining a halberd, and in chief three bars Or.

NOTE: Draw the charges larger.

 

Kingdom of the Middle

 

*Aed of Avigdor. Name change; formerly Aed Avigdor. Ermine, a unicorn's head to sinister issuant from base sable.

 

Albrecht von der Staffel. Gules, in pale an eagle's head couped and a compass star Or.

NOTE: Good heraldry. Staffel is feminine and von takes dative, so I have changed die to der.

 

*Alan MacMillan. Vert, in fess an alembic flask, stem to sinister, and a beaker, both per fess argent and Or.

NOTE: The alembic in heraldry looks like a portcullis (Parker, p. 372). I have therefore called this an alembic flask to differentiate it.

 

Ambrose sans Tonsure. Per bend sinister ermine and counter-ermine, a rose per bend sinister sable and argent, barbed and seeded proper, within a bordure gules, crusily patty argent.

NOTE: Good heraldry.

 

Andreas of Green Village. Name approval only.

 

Asgeirr Gunnarsson. Name approval only.

 

Caradwg Emrys Phelan. Name approval only.

NOTE: We do not use "called," so I have dropped the word.

 

Claire of Lynnwood Keep. Name approval only.

 

Elizabeth nic Dhiarmid. Azure, a hawk close and on a chief Or two roses gules, barbed and seeded proper.

NOTE: Excellent heraldry!

 

Fionna nic Alisdair. Name approval only.

 

Fiona Averylle of Maidenhead. Gules, an elephant passant trumpeting and on a chief raguly argent two annulets gules.

NOTE: Excellent heraldry!

Genevieve du Vent. Argent Or, fretty sable, a lion's head erased gules.

NOTE: Good heraldry.

 

Malcolm of Dunbar. Name approval only.

 

Melisande de Marmande. Name approval only.

 

*Middle Marches, Barony of. Badge for Order of the Gilded Reed. In saltire a quill pen argent and a sword inverted proper surmounted by a recorder Or.

NOTE: The recorder is not a reed instrument. It would be canting if you used a shawm or krummhorn instead of a recorder.

 

*Noergate, Shire of. Azure, a portcullis argent and on a chief Or a mullet azure within a laurel wreath vert.

NOTE: Good heraldry.

 

Rising Waters, Canton of. Gyronny arrondi gules and argent, a goblet Or, its base environed of a laurel wreath vert.

NOTE: This would be better if the laurel wreath environed the whole goblet.

 

Rowena Axelsdottir. Name approval only.

NOTE: Alexsdottir is the correct Norse form.

 

Svein Njalsson. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device.

 

*Talymar gan y Llwyn. Badge. Sable, a stag's head couped between in pale a plate within the stag's attire and a crescent argent.

NOTE: Household name not acceptable. The badge is a simplified version of his arms. It is very suggestive of a Druidic device. The combination of the badge with the name Holt Heorotes (Grove of the Stag). is too much religious symbolism. If they were a Druidic household serious about the worship of the Goddess and the Horned God, then this would be acceptable. Since this is not the case, the combination is too much. I have therefore passed the badge but not the household name. Please adopt a household name having no Druidic allusions.

 

Thomas d'Orleans. Azure, a chevron wavy vert fimbriated between two fleurs-de-lys argent and a Latin cross potent Or.

NOTE: A chevron wavy fimbriated is poor practice.

 

Alixia Aurora Airielle. Per pale vert and azure, both mullety, a pale within a bordure Or.

NOTE: Draw the pale wider. Alixia is a hybrid form. Much better would be Alicia or Alix. Ariel is the correct spelling. Thus Alicia Aurora Ariel would be more authentic.

 

Kingdom of the West

Adam Elfchaser. Per fess vert and Or, a mermaid sejant to sinister argent, tailed vert, crined Or.

NOTE: Another nice single charge device. (It is still possible to register simple devices.)

 

Anne Barton of Great Oaks. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device.

 

Cuilean MacBain of Kinchyle. Per pall vert, gules, and azure, a trident between in fess two bottle-nosed dolphins haurient, respectant Or.

 

Dennis of Northsea. Vert, a griffin sejant to sinister and a chief dovetailed argent.

NOTE: Classic heraldry. Very good! (More proof that common charges in simple, standard arrangements can still be registered.)

 

Emmerich of Vakkerfjell. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device.

 

Kristopher Kelson. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device.

NOTE: The change of ch to k in the beginning of a name in English is very eccentric, but since Kester did appear in period as a diminutive of Christopher, I will accept Kristopher.

 

Reynardine of the Glaive. Purpure, a bend sinister between two glaive heads addorsed Or.

NOTE: Good heraldry, although it would have been better if both glaive heads faced dexter.

 

Rhaylan o Ynys Witrin. Name approval only; see RETURNS for device.

NOTE: Ynys Witrin is a place, so I have added o to be consistent with Welsh usage.

 

Shaw Shadowdweller. Vert, three arrows in pall, points outward, between a cat sejant affronty and two cats combattant Or.

NOTE: Some surnames were used in period as given names. When a particular surname can be shown to have been so used, we do allow it to be used as a given name in the SCA. Shaw was not one of these, but in this case Shaw is his mundane given name. A person may use his/her mundane given name without worrying about it being in period, but it must satisfy all other rules. Since, in this case, the only question is one of being in period (Shaw was a period surname and occurs as a given name in modern baby books), I find that Shaw must be accepted, although it is poor practice. I highly recommend the use of Shawn, a variant of Sean. The addition of a single letter would make the given name a period one.

 

END OF ACCEPTANCES

 

 

THE FOLLOWING ARE RETURNED TO SUBMITTOR

Kingdom of Caid

 

Aelfred Járnstarfursson af Stöng. Or, a pair of tongs palewise, a hammer bendwise, and an anvil and stump, issuant from base, sable.

NOTE: The device is not period style and it is unbalanced. The hammer should be palewise. The anvil should be freestanding (i.e., delete the stump). The stump is not recognizable and does not appear to be a heraldic charge.

 

Cassio Bruno di Bartolomeo. Argent, a bend sinister azure between two ravens close to sinister sable.

NOTE: The device conflicts with Stove: Argent, a bend sinister azure (Rietstaap).

NOTE TO HERALDS: Mirror imaging must be exact for it to count as a conflict. Otherwise, normal rules of difference apply.

 

Helmut Wolfgang von Drache. Gyronny gules and argent, a dragon segreant Or, bellied and winged vert, maintaining in its forepaws a halberd azure.

NOTE: The device conflicts with Minimoto Akataro: Argent, a dragon rampant vert holding in its dexter forepaw a cross fretty Or. The wings should be entirely vert or Or, but not both.

 

Iomhar MacThaimhis o Chairngorm. Or, on a bend azure between two wolf's heads couped sable a claymore proper.

NOTE: This conflicts with Lashley: Or, on a bend azure between two wolf's heads couped proper three buckles Or (Papworth, p. 278). (Too bad, it was good heraldry.). There is really no difference between a wolf's head proper and a wolf's head sable.

 

Morgana ferch Dylan of Llyn Llachar. Argent, on a pale endorsed sable three mullets of eight points argent.

NOTE: The device conflicts with Shaftesbury: Argent, on a pale endorsed sable three roses argent (Papworth, p. 1009).

 

Morgana ferch Dylan of Llyn Llachar. Badge for House of the Winged Crescent. Azure, a winged crescent and in chief a mullet of eight points, all within a bordure argent.

NOTE: The household badge conflicts with Richard of Castle North: Azure, a pithon displayed head to sinister, wings inverted, in chief a mullet of four points, within a bordure argent.

 

Renee de la Forêt Française. Or, a frog sejant affronty vert, bellied argent, on a base vert a lily argent, and in sinister chief a dragonfly bendwise sable, winged azure.

NOTE: The device is unbalanced and a landscape, and is therefore not period style.

 

Wilihelm Heimirich von Donnerkeil. Badge. Gules, on a billet Or a pheon sable and on a bordure embattled argent a tressure sable.

NOTE: This is too complex for a badge. Delete the tressure on the bordure, which is poor practice.

 

Kingdom of Meridies

 

Audrey fitzwilliam of Treville. Gules, a fess cotissed between two escallops inverted argent and a sprig of lily of the valley slipped and leaved proper. (Convallaria majalis).

NOTE: The green leaves on gules violate the rule of contrast. Make the sprig all argent.

 

Axemoor, Barony of. Order of the Silver Gull.

NOTE: This conflicts with the Silver Gull Pursuivant. I suggest the Order of the Seagull.

 

Crysty-na Hyrundo. Or, in fess two European swallows volant fesswise addorsed proper within a bordure azure seme-de-lys Or. (Hirundo rustica).

NOTE: The use of charges or a part of the field azure, semé-de-lys Or, was a sign of blood link to the French throne or an augmentation granted by the King of France. Therefore Azure, semé-de-lys Or, may not be used in the SCA.

 

Damien the Swift. Sable, three piles inverted in point argent, each charged with a mullet gules, and in chief a swift migrant fesswise Or.

NOTE: This is not period style. Three piles inverted in point would issue lower down on the shield and meet near the top of the shield.

 

Davidar of Avery Court. Gules, on a cross argent a sword inverted sable and in chief a crescent vert.

NOTE: Name and device unacceptable. Davidar is not a valid variant of David, either in English or Hebrew. Just use David. The arms conflict with the flag of Sweden: Gules, a cross argent, which is also the arms of the Order of the Knights Hospitallers of St. John of Jerusalem.

 

Leonora Simonetta d'Este.

NOTE: Appeal denied. It is true that the ducal house of d'Este was not a royal house, and therefore d'Este can be used, but only if the given name does not match one of the members of the ducal house. In this case there is a conflict with Leonora d'Este, sister of Alfonso II, Duke of Ferrara. In the case of a name conflict, the addition of a second name, such as Simonetta, is normally sufficient, unless the person involved is famous, in which case the same combination of given name and surname cannot be used. Such is the case with Leonora d'Este, and her fame is unaffected by the fact that other female descendants of the house were also named Leonora.

 

Leonora d'Este is one of the main characters in Byron's Lament of Tasso, and her romance with the famed poet Torquato Tasso and his subsequent imprisonment by Duke Alfonso II was famous. To give another example, we allow people to use the local name "of York," even though the ducal House of York was well known, so long as they do not use the name of a member of that house. We would not allow Richard John of York, even with the addition of John. I suggest you use Leonora Simonetta di Ferrara, or else change the given name Leonora to another given name not used in the d'Este family. I recommend the former, since many members of the SCA consider claim to membership in a ducal house to be presumptuous.

 

Megan of the Shore. Argent, on a cartouche azure a gull volant to sinister argent.

NOTE: The device conflicts with Galleron de la Chenille: Argent, on a hurt a wyvern volant to sinister argent.

 

Morgan Alyn Alwyn. Per bend argent and Or, in bend a dragon rampant vert, between two foxes sejant proper. (Vulpes vulgaris).

NOTE: This is not period style. The three animals in bend within a bordure result in tiny animals not distinguishable at a distance. Scrunching charges along the line of partition like this is not period practice. The division per bend argent and Or has poor contrast. Try putting the animals in bend sinister and drawing them larger. The foxes proper are not good practice, as foxes come in different colors.

 

Phelan Cathaoir-Mor. Badge for House Cathaoir-Mor. Or, a dragon segreant gules between two flaunches checky Or and vert.

NOTE: While the household name is now acceptable, the badge still conflicts with the attributed arms of King Arthur: Or, a dragon rampant gules. This use of flaunches results in the appearance of a claim to being an illegitimate son of King Arthur. The checky Or and vert on an Or field is also poor practice.

 

Kingdom of the Middle

 

Elestr gerbron Arianllyn. Argent, a juniper tree couped fructed proper and in chief a cross patty between two fleurs-de-lys azure.

NOTE: Name and device unacceptable. Elestr is the word for lily, but it is not a period given name. Flower names were not normally used as given names in period. It is unwise to try to directly translate a name into another language. Sometimes it works, but more often it does not. Try the period name Blodwen (white flower). The word gerbron can be used in the name of a place, but not in a personal name. Thus a correct name form would be Blodwen 0'r Arianllyn. The device conflicts with Allendale of the Evergreens: Argent, a pine tree proper.

 

Friedrich von Waffen. Badge. Argent, a ferret rampant sable.

NOTE: This conflicts with Houri the Savage: Argent, a lion rampant sable, armed, orbed, and langued gules.

 

Izra Silverthorne. Azure, on a fess argent a peacock close azure and in chief in pale two thorn sprigs fesswise argent.

NOTE: Name and device unacceptable. Please document Izra as a feminine English given name, as you have claimed it to be. Ezra is a biblical male name, but initial E to I is not a normal change. The device is very unbalanced, with two charges above the fess and none below it. It is therefore not period style. Moving one thorn sprig to base would give a balanced period style, but then, I'm afraid, it would conflict with my own arms (Azure, a fess argent, overall in pale three keys fesswise counterchanged). I suggest moving one of the thorns and then changing one of the tinctures.

 

Kennegrae Gilchrist. Badge. Azure, a cross moline argent surmounted by a dexter clenched gauntlet palewise counterchanged.

NOTE: Badge unacceptable. This is excessively complex counterchanging. The gauntlet cannot be identified as a gauntlet at any reasonable distance.

 

Svein Njalsson. Azure, in pale a wolf couchant reguardant and a cross moline Or.

NOTE: The device conflicts with Molineux: Azure, a cross moline and in chief point a ducal coronet Or (Papworth, p. 626).

 

Welfengau, Canton der. Argent, a triple-towered tower sable within a laurel wreath vert and on a chief gules a griffin passant Or.

NOTE: Guelph in period (Welf in German). was a major faction in the Holy Roman Empire and/or Italy that feuded with the Ghibellines (German--Waiblingen). Welfengau thus, in period, would mean their land. Guelph was not a place name in period. There is also a prohibition against using the current mundane name of the area a branch is located in. Given these combined problems, the name Welfengau is not acceptable as a branch name.

 

Kingdom of the West

 

Anne Barton of Great Oaks. Vert, a horse's head couped between three acorns slipped and doubly-leaved argent.

NOTE: This was submitted on the LoI as proper, when it should have been argent. Resubmit with the correct blazon so it can be checked.

 

Emmerich of Vakkerfjell. Or, three hammers gules within a bordure gules bezanty.

NOTE: The device conflicts with Gilles de Mailly, Bacueville, and Von der Borcht, who all have Or, three mallets gules (Gayre and Rietstaap). The addition of a bordure semé is not sufficient difference from mundane arms, given the frequent use of bordures for cadency. Semé is not a charge but counts as a treatment, like masoned.

 

Kristopher Kelson. Argent, a bend sinister between two martlets sable.

NOTE: The device is identical to the arms of Lostanvern (Rietstaap).

 

Marchdaran ap Pengruffyn.

NOTE: Name not acceptable. Marchdaran does not translate as "thunderclap," but rather as "horse-thunder." It is not a given name, nor is Pengruffyn. The Welsh patronymic preposition 'lap" was only used before the father's given name, not the father's title. Since griffins are a variant of dragons, Pengruffyn looks like an attempted variant on Pendragon. While I received the documentation on the name, I did not receive the actual forms. Please add a valid given name. Marchdaran is acceptable as a byname. Drop ap Pengruffyn, as it violates Welsh name usage and will be considered presumptuous by many.

 

Rhaylan o Ynys Witrin. Or, a serpent bowed debruised and counterbowed debruised vert.

NOTE: The device conflicts with O'Drone: Or, a serpent nowed vert (Rietstaap). The position of the serpent is complex and non-standard.

 

Rhea Louveciennes.

NOTE: Name appeal denied. In classical culture, deities could begin as humans and become deities in the course of their lives. (Several Roman emperors were deified.). Rhea Silvia was such a case. In addition, and more important, her name appears to be a unique name (other than the Greek goddess Rhea, mother of Zeus) that was not used commonly in period as a given name. Unless you can demonstrate that Rhea was used repeatedly as a given name in period, it cannot be used, particularly not in conjunction with Louveciennes. Louve means she-wolf, and Rhea's sons were suckled by a she-wolf.

 

END OF RETURNS

 

Pray believe, my Lords and my Ladies, that I remain

 

Your servant,

 

[Signed]

 

Master Wilhelm von Schlüssel

Laurel King of Arms

WvS:CFCvS