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"Sh5^18MSS888S8888SSSSSSSSSS88Jxix{8Aui{x`xoZi{xxxl888SS8JSJSJ8SS..S.SSSS>A.SSxSSJJSJSSSSSS8SSSSSSSSS. yO XX ]i yP- RETURNS ` `  hh,p.Vpp  20 December 1992 (XXVII)     X` hp x (#%'0*,.8135@8:,kIt also conflicts with the arms of Fuchs (Rietstap): D'argent ! une reynard rampant de gueules (Argent,  zPd-a fox rampant gules). There's a CD for adding the wheel, but none for the changes to the canine.(#  yP- Alec Tristan d'Avignon . Name and device. Azure, in saltire a lute and a sword within a bordure argent.  zP- N,kNo documentation has been presented to show Alec as a period diminutive of Alexander; indeed, such  EYevidence as exists suggests it to be a purely modern diminutive. Without evidence of period use, we cannot  zPQ-register Alec. The submitter has disallowed any changes to his name.(#   ,kThe lute is characterized by its angled pegbox; the instrument drawn here is not a lute. More important,  EYit's been drawn in trian aspect, which has been grounds for return ere now: v. Tomas Luis Rodrigues de  EYkSegovia, LoAR of Oct 91. This must be returned for redrawing, and (if he intends to use this longnecked instrument, instead of a lute) some documentation for the charge.(# ,k(#  yP- Aquila Blackmore . Device resubmission. Argent v+tu ploy) gules, a mullet sable within a bordure argent.  zP- ,kThis conflicts with a badge of the Luftwaffe, quoted from the Combined Ordinary II, p.162: Gules, on  zP- EYKa lozenge ploye argent the number 1 headed of an eagle and between two wings gules, within a bordure argent.  EYNThere's one CD for the change of tertiary charge. We regret this conflict wasn't cited in his previous submission, but Combo II was not yet published then.(#  yP!- Bernworth von der HGp . Name.  zP"- l,kBoth the given name and the byname are insufficiently documented. While Bernward is a valid given  zPK#- EYname, we don't see how Bernworth could be a plausible variant; the final TH would more probably have been  zP$- EYjsimply T. The byname HGp is on even shakier ground: it's documented only as a protheme in some German  zP$- EYplacenames (HGpstedt, HGpede), with the suggestion that it might be "a water word". Its use as an independent noun, and its exact meaning, remain uncertain. We need further evidence before this name can be registered.(# ,k(#  yP9'- !pI`  yP-!Brighid Charthach . Device. Per chevron vert and argent, in base a fret vert.  zP(- \,kThis conflicts with Eaton of Dunmoyline (Rietstap): Or, a fret vert. There's a CD for the field, but since the vert fret cannot overlie the vert portion of the field, there's no second CD for moving it to base.(#  zP)- ,kA similar argument brings this in technical conflict with Dena (Papworth 882): Argent fretty vert. There's  zP^*- EY[again a CD for the field. Per the LoAR cover letter of 10 Nov 92, we count no difference between fretty and  zP(+- EYka fret. Fretty would not move on the field, but the vert fretwork on the vert portion of the field would be"(+.,,-" invisible; the visual effect would be as drawn here, without even a possible CD for change of placement.(#  yP- Christopher of York. Badge. (fieldless) A rose argent winged sable.  zPY- ,kThe use of the white rose of York with the byname of York has been disallowed since the LoAR of 11 Nov 77; it is currently found as one of our prohibited name/charge combinations.(# ,k(#  yP- Claudwick von Naerdinckhove . Name.  zP|- ,kThe name suffers from a lack of documentation. Claudwick  was submitted as a variant of Chlodovech, but  zPF- EY=none of the attested variants of that name (Chludovicus, Lodewicus, Ludwich, &c) have the initial vowel of  zP- EY.Claudwick. Naerdinckhove was intended to be a Dutch construction from Naerdinck (asserted to be an early  zP- EYform of Naarden) and éhove "court, farm"; but while Naarden is a documented place, we have no evidence that  zP- EYit was ever called Naerdinck. Finally, the preposition von is German; for this Dutch name, van would be the correct form. This needs extensive reworking.(#  yP - Denewulf Ringmaker . Device. Azure, a snake involved and in chief three annulets argent.  ,kThe use of almostbutnotquite identical charges is unacceptable style; it confuses the eye, where the whole  EY=purpose of heraldry is visual recognition. This has been grounds for return ere now (v. the LoAR of 21 May 89, pp.18, 25).(#  zP- ,kAgainst the arms of Lauzon (Woodward 115), Azure, three serpents with their tails in their mouths argent,  EYwe count a CD for number of primaries and a CD for the addition of secondaries. Denewulf's annulets in chief are clearly secondary charges, of a different group than the central serpent.(#  yPA- Dorian Elwinwood . Name.  zP - ,kDorian was not a name in period, but an adjective: "pertaining to the inhabitants of Doris, in Greece."  xP- EY=Its first use as a given name was in Oscar Wilde's Portrait of Dorian Grey. The submitter needs a valid given name.(#  yP,- Drei Eichen, Shire of . Device. Or, on a bend azure three acorns palewise Or, overall a laurel wreath vert.  zP- N,kThis conflicts with Wat of Everleie (Papworth 236): Or, on a bend azure three escallops of the first.  EYThere's a CD for the addition of the laurel wreath. However, armory with an overall charge doesn't fit the  xP- EY[definition of "simple armory" outlined in Rule X.4.j.ii. We therefore cannot give a second CD for change of  EYtype only of tertiaries. Putting a laurel wreath on either side of the bend would clear this conflict (assuming it doesn't introduce others).(#  |P- M,kMoreover, we have received no petition of popular support for this device. A petition  was included, but only for the Shire's name.(#  yP;-   Eleonora Vittoria Alberti di Calabria . Badge resubmission. Per fess wavy barry wavy sable and argent and gules, in base a tower Or.  zP- ,kThis conflicts with the badge of Edward II (FoxDavies' Heraldic Badges, p.96): (fieldless) A tower Or.  EYThere's a CD for fieldlessness, but we cannot grant difference for placement on the field against a fieldless badge.(#  yP - Eoan na Belich . Name.  xP!- ,kThe byname doesn't seem to be a period form. The submitter's documentation (Innes of Learney, Tartans  xP"- EYLof the Clans and Families of Scotland) simply says: "In some parts of Argyllshire the Macmillans are known  zPG#- EYas Na Belich the Bells." But that doesn't make it necessarily acceptable for an individual Macmillan: Ewen  zP$- EYzthe Bells makes as little sense in Gaelic as in English. None of the commenters suggested a grammatically correct form; pending such a form, or documentation of the submitted form, this must be returned.(#  yPk&- !pI`  yP-!Franz Joder von JoderhGbel . Badge. (fieldless) On a flame gules a lyre argent.  zP4'- ,kConflicts with Reginleif the Unruly (SCA), Sable, on a flame gules fimbriated Or, a roughlegged draft  zP'- EY-horse forceny argent; and with Grimm the HeleBourne (SCA), Sable, upon a flame gules fimbriated Or, a skull  zP(- EY^argent. A check of the emblazons showed these blazons to be accurate; so there's a single CD, for fieldlessness. Per Rule X.4.j.ii, change of type of tertiary charge doesn't earn another CD in this case.(#  yP"+- Jakob Stiufsen . Badge. (fieldless) On an escallop argent, a dance sable.""+.,,-"Ԍ zP- ,kThis conflicts with Sieglinde von Elfinstone (SCA): Papelonny Or and azure, on an escallop argent a  zP-pellet. There's a CD for fieldlessness, but not for type of tertiary on a complex charge.(#  yP\-   Katharina von der Waldwiese . Device. Per pale Or and azure, a firebird displayed within a bordure engrailed counterchanged.  @,kThe primary charge does not appear to be a valid period usage. It is not a Russian firebird; that is  EYessentially a variant of peacock, is found in period art, and has been accepted for SCA use. As drawn here,  EYthe bird is composed of flame, which is unattested in either period art or period armory. Since it is so easily  EYconfused with either a bird or a flame, I must rule this "firebird" unacceptable, pending solid evidence of its period use.(#  zP- ,kMoreover, if the charge is considered a stylized bird, this conflicts with Carpenter (Papworth 303): Per  zP-pale Or and azure, an eagle displayed counterchanged. There's a single CD, for the bordure.(#  yP1 - Marco Palladio di Soncino . Household name for Casa Peregrina.  ,kConflicts with the Peregrine Pursuivant, registered to the West Kingdom. The change in designator is insufficient difference.(# ,k(#  yPR - Micheil de Mar . Name. ,kThis conflicts with Michael de la Mare, registered July 88.(# ,k(#  yP-  h Roland Witt . Device. Per pale Or and sable, two seagoats combatant counterchanged, on a point pointed azure a mullet pierced, the points moline Or.  ,kThe "mullet moline" is unorthodox, to put it mildly. Before we can accept this, we need some evidence  zP- EYof its period use at the very least, that the moline treatment could be applied to anything other than crosses (and of course millrinds). Pending such evidence, this must be returned.(# ,k(#  yP^- Sela nic a'Phearsoin of Clan Chattan . Alternate name for Arianrhod ferch Branwen ferch Olwen.  zP'- k,kArianrhod is the name of the Welsh moon goddess, and has not been shown to have been used by humans  EYin period. It has been returned ere now (LoAR of Aug 87, p.13); pending evidence of its period use, it must again be returned.(#  z,kThe client's name was registered May 92 in the form given above. Her paperwork suggests she thinks her  EYname was registered in a different form. You might inform her of the correct form of her name, and invite her to submit a name change if she's dissatisfied with it.(#  yOMG MERIDIES ĐlU  yP1- Carlwyn George Ordragoun of Canterbury . Badge. Azure, on a pall argent, three Canterbury crosses gules.  zP- ,kThis conflicts with Collet (Woodward 150): Azure, a pall argent. There's a single CD, for the tertiary charges.(#  yPT-   Richard Foxcroft . Device. Per pale vairy argent and azure, and vairy azure and argent, on a chief sable a fox courant argent.   ,kCounterchanging a vair field isn't an acceptable practice: there is no heraldic difference between vair and  zP!- EY"vair counterchanged", and the result is as visually indistinct as, say, Per pale checky Or and gules, and checky  zPw"- EY=gules and Or. In each case, except for a discontinuity in the center of the shield, from any distance it looks like a single field.(#  zP $- \ pI` ,kThe device conflicts with Morden: Ermine, on a chief sable a talbot passant argent. (The device, found  zP$- EYin Papworth, p.562, is blazoned with an annulet in the honour point for difference gules. Since the annulet is  EYspecifically blazoned as a brisure, the original arms of Morden must be as blazoned above.) There's a CD for  zPe&-the field, but no difference for talbot vs. fox certainly not when used as tertiary charges.(#  zP/'- z,kIt also conflicts with Shana Taleh (SCA): Vair en pointe, on a chief sable a demisun Or issuant from the  zP'- EYline of division beneath an arch of eight mullets argent. There's a CD for the changes to the tertiaries on the chief, but no difference for the variations to the vair field.(#  yPS*- William the Blacksmith . Name.  zP+-  ,kThis technically conflicts with William Smith, the English geologist (17691839). He is listed in several"+.,,-"  EYgeneral references (Webster's Biographical Dictionary, p.1377), so he's important enough to protect. The  zP- EYaddition of the modifier black is insufficient, per Rule V.2; and the presence or absence of a space between  zP- EYwords doesn't seem significant here. If William the Black Smith would conflict, so must William the  zN\-Blacksmith.(#  yOS MIDDLE ĐlU  yP|- Ceridwen Maelor verch Gruffydd . Device. Argent, a horse rampant and a chief rayonny pean.  ,kThe rayonny line of the chief is drawn far too small to be seen at any distance. Medieval armory used boldly drawn lines, the better to be seen and identified. This must be returned for redrawing.(#  yP- Duncan MacLeod of Edinbane. Name.  ,kBy the submitter's own documentation, Edinbane was planned and built in the 19th Century by Kenneth  EY[MacLeod; the submitter cannot have come from there in period. We would have deleted the toponymic, but  zP - EY[the name would then have conflicted with Duncan MacLeod, hero of the "Highlander" television series. We  EYhated to have to consider the latter conflict, but a random sampling of local SCA folk showed the majority recognized the character.(#  yP- Finis Terrae, Shire of . Name and device. Vert, in cross a laurel wreath between four horse's heads couped Or.  ,kThe name conflicts with Finisterre, or Finist/re, the westernmost portion of France, at the very tip of  zP- EYBrittany. Its name derives from finis terrae, "land's end". As it's cited in general references (1911 E.Brit., vol.X, p.382), Finisterre is important enough to protect.(# ,kThe device appears acceptable, but cannot be registered without a name.(#  yP-   Fionna Goodburne . Badge resubmission. (fieldless) A thistle slipped and leaved per chevron throughout purpure and vert.  ,kThe division of the thistle could not be identified as such by the heralds at Laurel's meeting. On such an  zP$- EY=irregular shape as a thistle, any division must be exceptionally simple to be recognized. Per pale might have  zP- EYbeen acceptable; Per chevron, where the line must cross the empty space between the leaves and the blossom, is not.(#  zP- k,kThe previous badge submission (A thistle purpure) was returned Feb 92 for conflict with the badge of Clan  zPJ- EYStewart (FoxDavies' Heraldic Badges, p.146): A thistle [proper]. At the time, it was assumed that the Stewart  EYbadge was tinctureless. However, in blazoning the Scots plant badges, FoxDavies did not account for their  EY>most common use: as sprigs actually worn on the person. This makes the Scots plant badges' coloration  zP- EYproper in correct usage. The original submission was therefore returned in error; she might consider resubmitting it.(#  yP-    Fortes Souris, Stronghold des. Name and device. Gules, on a fess wavy between two mice rampant addorsed, tails entwined argent and a laurel wreath Or, a bar wavy azure.  ,kThe name is French for "Stronghold of the Strong Mice", which doesn't fit any exemplar for period  EYjplacenames of which we're aware. At the very least, some evidence of period compatiblilty is required before this can be registered.(#  !,kThe device looks acceptable, but it cannot be registered without a branch name. Moreover, while we received a petition of support for the name, we received none for the device.(#  yP?#-  pI` Genevi/ve Duplessis . Device. Ermine, three bunches of grapes purpure slipped and leaved vert.  zP$- \,kConflicts with Brun, Marquis de la Roche (Rietstap): D'or ! trois grappes de raisins au naturel (Or, three  zP$-grape bunches slipped and leaved proper.) There's a lone CD, for the field.(#  xP%-,k(#  yPd&-   Gwendolynn ferch Elydyr . Device. Ermine, a winged panther segreant guardant sable bezanty, wings sable, incensed proper.  zP'- ,kThis conflicts with Broughton (Papworth 75): Ermine, a lion rampant sable. There's a CD for the  EYaddition of the wings, but the bezants in the emblazon were drawn so small as to be mere artistic details, worth no difference here.(#  ,kIf the submitter decides to keep this monster when she resubmits, please have her draw the roundels larger; she should also keep the wings separate from the head and tail, so that they all can be identified.(#"+.,,-"Ԍ yP-ԙ Middle Kingdom . Title for Once Pursuivant.  zP- ,kThis conflicts with Caer Oncia, registered to Sula von Pferdenthal. The designator is transparent, and counts for no difference.(#  yP#- Raffe Scholemaystre . Name.  zP- {,kMaster is a reserved title in the SCA, and may not be registered as part of a Society name. The policy was most recently reaffirmed Oct 92, in the submission of Sara Annchen Baumeister.(#  zP~-,kThe device was registered under the holding name James of Eoforwic.(#  yOH  yP-  : Wilhelmina Brant . Device change. Or, two ringnecked pheasants respectant proper, in chief three garden roses slipped and leaved vert.  ,kThe use of ringnecked pheasants proper and garden roses, when both have honest heraldic equivalents, violates our strictures against excessive naturalism, as outlined in Rule VIII.4.c.(#  zP1 - M,kAdditionally, the ringnecked pheasant (Phasianus torquatus) appears to be a 19th Century import from  xP - EYChina, according to the 1911 E.Brit., vol.XXI, p.361. This wasn't noticed for her original submission,  EYprobably because the birds were heraldically tinctured; they could as easily have been any kind of pheasant,  zP - EY]and indeed we've amended her current blazon accordingly. But when tinctured proper, the problem of  EY\compatibility can no longer be ignored; we would need evidence that this breed of pheasant was known to period Europeans before we could register it.(#  yOLC TRIMARIS ĐlU  yP=-  *! Johann G?tz Kauffman von Erfurt . Device. Argent, a doubleheaded eagle gules, on a chief triangular embattled sable a cup Or.  |P- ,kWith  very rare exceptions (e.g. in combination with enarched lines), the use of two or more complex lines  zP- EYon the same charge is confusing, and unattested in period armory. (Wavy raguly? Embattled rayonny? I think  zPd-not.) In this case, the chief could be either embattled or triangular but not both.(#  yP-  J Justin of Kent . Device. Argent, three crosses crosslet sable, on a chief gules a quill pen Or, all within a bordure sable.  zP- ,kThis conflicts with the arms of Redy (Papworth 671): Argent, three crosses crosslet sable, on a chief gules  zPQ- EYa lion passant guardant Or. There's a CD for the addition of the bordure, but the design is not simple enough for Rule X.4.j.ii to be invoked; thus, no difference is granted for the change in type of tertiary on the chief.(#  M,kWhen a bordure and chief are used together, the chief almost invariably overlies the bordure (Parker 73).  EYThe rare exceptions generally don't have tertiaries on the chief; they would be crowded by the bordure,  EYrendering them harder to identify. The handful of SCA registrations with bordures surmounting charged chiefs  EYhave subsequently been disallowed as precedent (LoAR of Oct 91, p.17); far more often, such designs have been returned as nonperiod practice. This must likewise be returned.(#  yP-   Katherine of Thorneholde . Device. Argent, on a pale azure between two garden roses gules, slipped vert, a garden rose Or, slipped vert, on a chief azure an arrow reversed Or.  1,kThis is too complex. It has four types of charge in five tinctures, which exceeds our standard for  EYcomplexity as outlined in Rule VIII.1.a. While that guideline may be waived for a comely period design, the use of garden roses prevents this from being considered such a design.(# ,k(#  yPD#- Patricia Philomena de Saint Cl)ment . Device. Gules, an anchor Or, on a chief potenty argent three spirals sable.  ,kThere are two problems with this submission. First, the potenty line on the chief is drawn much too small;  EYit would not be visible from any distance. Heraldry being a means of identification, its motifs should be drawn  zP%- EYlarge, bold and visible. Second, the spiral does not appear to be an acceptable charge; a previous attempt at  zPg&-registration (under the blazon gurges couped) was returned Oct 90. This must be redesigned.(#  yP'- Southkeep, Shire of . Badge. (fieldless) On a tower azure a crux stellata argent.  zP(- N,kConflicts with Der Dumer (Manesse #101): Argent, a bell tower azure roofed gules containing a bell  zP)- EYargent. The bell is essentially a tertiary charge on the tower; as the latter isn't a simple geometric charge, Rule  xPV*- EYX.4.j.ii doesn't apply here. The change of type of tertiary is not worth a CD; the only countable difference is for fieldlessness.(#"+.,,-"Ԍ zP- ,kPossible infringement was cited against the flag of the Eureka Stockade rebellion: Azure, a crux stellata  zP- EYargent. While I sympathize with the concerns of our Lochac colleagues, I don't see that this badge can  EYreasonably be construed as infringement. See the discussion on Southkeep's badge for its Brewers & Vinters Guild (under PENDED) for a complete discussion.(#  yP-  +  Taliesynne Nycheymwrh yr Anghyfannedd . Household name and badge for Norrey Acadamie of Armorie.   Z(fieldless) Two straight trumpets in saltire, surmounted by another palewise, the whole ensigned of a fleurdelys Nourrie between two lions combattant, all argent.  !,kThe name and badge had been previously returned in 1984 and 1989: the name for presumption and  EY=conflict with the Norroy King of Arms, the badge for complexity and infringement on the badge of the SCA  EYjCollege of Arms, and the combination of the two for appearing (by the use of elements from the English and  EY.SCA Colleges, the title and arms of Norroy, and the title of a classic heraldic text) to claim an official status unsuitable for a private household.(#  !,kThe submitter has provided a letter from J.P. BrookeLittle, current Norroy & Ulster King of Arms,  EYgranting permission to use the title. The submitter contends that our complexity standards have changed with  EYythe new Rules, so that this is no longer overcomplex; and that, since the new Rules did not republish the List  EYkof Reserved Charges (which included the crossed trumpets of the College of Arms), those charges were no longer prohibited to him.(#  y,kStipulating, for the sake of argument, that Mr. BrookeLittle has the authority to grant permission, his letter  EYstill doesn't remove the problem of presumption which lies solely in the axioms of our historical recreation,  EYand is unaffected by permission. To borrow Lady Harpy's analogy, even if the Queen of England wrote a letter  |Pm- EYpermitting someone to use Elizabeth of England, we  wouldn't permit it, because the name is inconsistent with  EY.our rules against claiming unearned honors. (And to extend the analogy, even with such a letter, there'd still  EYbe a conflict not with the current Elizabeth of England, but with the one in period. Mr. BrookeLittle's  zP-permission does not automatically prevent infringement against the previous holders of the title Norroy.)(#  |P- ,kThe List of Reserved Charges is  still available, in the Glossary of Terms sold by the Stock Clerk, and is  EYstill in force. The use of the crossed trumpets is still reserved to the College of Arms; the only new  EY?submissions that may use them are the seals of Principal Heralds. Nor can one argue that the current  EYjsubmission, by using three trumpets instead of two, is clear of the problem. The design uses a reserved motif,  zP- EYand additional charges don't remove the presumption; that would be like saying that the use of one crown is  zP-reserved to Royal Peers, but the use of two crowns is not.(#  ,kThe issue of complexity is thornier. Some commenters suggested that, because the charges were conjoined,  zP- EYjthey formed a single group. That isn't necessarily the case: A mullet within and conjoined to an annulet has  EYan obvious primary charge surrounded by a secondary charge. As drawn here, the lions and fleurdelys appear  EYyto be a separate group from the trumpets; thus, this does not appear to be a group of three dissimilar types of  EYjcharge (soidisant "slotmachine heraldry"). Whether the badge's visual confusion is now at acceptable levels  EYis a separate issue; absent any supporting arguments, this must still be considered unacceptably complex for a fieldless badge. A more standard arrangement of charges would probably solve this.(#  ,kThe appeal did not address the problem of the use of elements from the armory of Norroy and the English  EYCollege of Arms. In conjunction with the name and the trumpets, those elements highlight the problem of  EYpresumption; but they are not, in and of themselves, objectionable. Under a different household name, and in a badge without the crossed trumpets, they would likely be acceptable.(#  |,kFinally, the LOI alluded to the submitter's heraldic rank and work in heraldic education. These are  EYlaudable, but not relevant to the problems of this badge. The appearance of a claim of official status in the  EYSCA College of Arms would remain, whether the submitter were a herald or not; this is, after all, a personal  EYbadge for a household, with no official sanction. The infringement on the title of Norroy remains. Complex badges remain complex, despite the submitter's rank.(#  ,kThree separate Laurel Sovereigns of Arms, over the span of a decade, have deemed this name and badge  EYunacceptable. The submitter is hereby formally enjoined from their further use. If he resubmits with a less exalted household name, and a redesigned badge, he should have no stylistic problems.(#  yP'-   Thomas du Lac . Badge resubmission for House of the Open Door. Gyronny argent and azure, a fleurdelys within a bordure sable.  ,kWhile adding the bordure has removed the previous conflict, it has introduced another. This conflicts with  zPF*- EY[John Sydeserf (Lyon Ordinary I, #2665): Argent, a fleurdelys within a bordure sable. There's a single CD, for the field.(#"+.,,-"Ԍ yP-ԙ Trimaris, Kingdom of . Title for Osprey Pursuivant Extraordinary.  zP- ,kExact conflict with the Osprey Pursuivant, registered to the Kingdom of Atlantia. It also conflicts with  zP-the Shire of the Osprey, in Meridies.(#