Society for Creative Anachronism
College of Arms
1194 Firwood Dr.
Pittsburgh, PA 15243
412-306-0416
kvs+@cs.cmu.edu
July 20, 2001

Unto the members of the College of Arms and all others who may read this missive do Dame Elsbeth Anne Roth, Laurel Queen of Arms, and Master Pietari Pentipoika, Pelican King of Arms, send greetings.

The June Laurel meeting was held Saturday, June 16, 2001, and considered the following letters of intent: Æthelmearc (January 1) (redated to February based on postmark), Æthelmearc (January 6) (redated to February based on postmark), Æthelmearc (January 10) (redated to February based on postmark), East (January 29) (redated to February based on postmark), Atenveldt (February 1), Artemisia (February 11), Middle (February 12), Drachenwald (February 18), Atlantia (February 21), Lochac (February 21), An Tir (February 27), Ealdormere (February 27), and Meridies (February 28). The Pelican meeting was held Sunday, June 9, 2001. A Laurel and Pelican road show was Sunday, June 3, 2001, at the Knowne World Heraldic Symposium in Northshield.

The July Laurel meeting was held Saturday, July 14, 2001, and Sunday, July 15, 2001 and considered the following letters of intent: Ansteorra (February 22) (redated to March based on postmark), Atenveldt (March 1), Middle (March 4), Drachenwald (March 12), Outlands (March 15), Lochac (March 18), Atlantia (March 21), Calontir (March 24), West (March 27), An Tir (March 28), Calontir (March 29), Artemisia (March 30), and Meridies (March 31). The Pelican meeting was held Sunday, July 8, 2001, and Sunday, July 15, 2001.

The August meetings are scheduled for Saturday, August 11, 2001 (both names and armory), and will consider the following letters of intent: Atenveldt (April 1), Caid (April 4), Lochac (April 8), Drachenwald (April 9), Middle (April 11), Ansteorra (April 20), West (April 20), Atlantia (April 21), An Tir (April 27), Trimaris (April 28), and Meridies (April 30). Responses and rebuttals to commentary must be in the College's hands no later than July 29, 2001.

The September meetings are scheduled for Saturday, September 15, 2001 (Pelican) and Saturday, September 22, 2001 (armory), and will consider the following letters of intent: Atenveldt (May 1), Middle (May 5), Ansteorra (May 10), Caid (May 11), Drachenwald (May 14), Æthelmearc (May 15), Caid (May 15), Lochac (May 16), Atlantia (May 20), Calontir (May 25), and An Tir (May 30). Original commentary on these LoIs must be in the College's hands no later than July 31, 2001. Responses and rebuttals to commentary must be in the College's hands no later than August 31, 2001.

The October meetings are scheduled Saturday, October 13 (names and armory), and will consider the following letters of intent: Atenveldt (June 1), Æthelmearc (June 10), Ansteorra (June 14), Artemisia (June 14), Drachenwald (June 14), Middle (June 14), Atlantia (June 16), Lochac (June 17), Outlands (June 21), Trimaris (June 28), and Meridies (June 30). Original commentary on these LoIs must be in the College's hands no later than August 31, 2001. Responses and rebuttals to commentary must be in the College's hands no later than September 30, 2001.

The November meetings are tentatively scheduled for Saturday, November 10 (names) and Sunday, November 11 (armory) and will consider the Letters of Intent dated July 2001.

Not all letters of intent may be considered when they are originally scheduled on this cover letter. The date of mailing of the LoI, date of receipt of the Laurel packet, or other factors may delay consideration of certain letters of intent. Additionally, some letters of intent received may not have been scheduled because the administrative requirements (receipt of the forms packet, receipt of the necessary fees, etc.) have not yet been met.

REMINDER: Until the packet containing the paperwork is received, the letter may not be scheduled.

Rules Changes

Last month Palimpsest proposed rules changes that have been under discussion for most of my term. I have discussed the changes with Zenobia and we both agree that there is no reason to wait to implement his changes. Therefore I now announce the following changes to the armory rules:

On Greyhounds and Wolves

Some months ago, I asked the College for their opinions on whether precedent should be overturned to give significant difference between a greyhound and a wolf (and more specifically, a greyhound's head and a wolf's head). The standard of RfS X.4.e, Type Changes, is that when comparing two charges both of which were used in period heraldry, we consider them significantly different if they were "considered to be separate" in period. Evidence was presented, which none disputed, that greyhounds and wolves were both period charges. However, responses substantially opposed the change, and therefore the precedent that all canines conflict will remain in place.

However, much of the commentary focused more broadly on issues of identifiability of these and other canines. Batonvert suggested that collars were an important identifier for dogs, but Argent Snail pointed out that in various period rolls of arms one finds more dogs without collars than with. Moreover, Argent Snail pointed out that in one blazon in the Dictionary of British Arms, there was confusion as to whether a specific depiction was intended to be a dog or a wolf. Others were concerned about how we would treat the various breeds of dogs that were not known in period heraldry, particularly those that blur the distinctions between the two. These concerns, while not unimportant, are outside the scope of the issue at question.

Just as we give significant difference between, for example, falcons and swans (when in postures period for falcons and swans), while giving no difference between either and a generic bird, we could easily for canines define a few types (wolf/fox, greyhound, and talbot, for example) each of which is significantly different from one another and a residual category (everything else) which is not significantly different from any of them. Such a plan would allow for a clear precedent regarding both depictions that blurred distinctions (they could be blazoned as generic dogs) and depictions of breeds that are not one of these charges (they would be treated as generic dogs for purposes of conflict). There is, however, insufficient support in the College so no such plan will be implemented at this time.

A Word from the Laurel Clerk and Keeper of Records

As the incoming Laurel Clerk (read "submissions-handling grunt"), I would like to beg for electronic copies of all computer-produced Letters of Intent, Comment, Response, Correction, et cetera, preferably e-mailed to submissions@sca.org.

The system for processing LoIs and LoCs and generating the skeleton LoAR involves running electronic copies through programs. Therefore, a paper-only letter has to be typed in or scanned. This is error-prone and slow. Further, I've noticed that almost everyone seems to be using a computer nowadays, so almost everyone can save the staff hours of work with a simple, cheap action.

I have MS Word, Corel WordPerfect, Sun StarOffice, and plain text editors. If you use a program that they can't handle, let's talk. I want to accommodate you.

If you have such computer files but e-mailing them is difficult, then please enclose a diskette with your Laurel office copy. Windows, Macintosh, and Linux formats are ideal. About three years' supply of diskettes costs some US$10 at CompUSA, so one diskette per month costs less than adding one new member of the Mailing List.

NOTA BENE: this request applies only to the text of LoIs, LoCs, and similar letters (Response, Correction, et cetera). The submission forms and their attached documentation sheets should be sent in paper only, just like before. Please, no electronic pictures, due to the storage space and download time.

NOTA BENE: The above request is a request only. (Shameless begging, yes; mandatory, no.) Also, it can apply only to computer-generated letters. I emphasize that Laurel policy has not changed: any paper-based written letters are welcome. I have seen typewritten and even handwritten LoCs. The above request certainly does not, cannot apply to them; they will be cheerfully typed in. Computer-generated paper letters will be typed or scanned also.

(Paper letters, mind you. The Laurel office regrets that it is unable to accept cuneiform tablets, runestones, tattooed cattle, &c. All such will be returned to sender, postage due.)

HEY MISTER POSTMAN, or Send What to Whom

Send Laurel office copies of all submissions-related paper, including

to Kathleen M. O'Brien, 7323 Potters Trl, Austin, TX 78729-7777.

Send Laurel office copies of all submissions-related electronic files to submissions@sca.org . This includes electronic copies of LoIs, LoCs, LoRs, &c.

Send roster changes and corrections to Lord Symond Bayard le Gris, Bruce R. Nevins, 2527 E. 3rd St., Tucson, AZ, 85716-4114, (520) 795-6000, (520) 795-0158 (fax), bnevins@nexiliscom.com. College of Arms members can also request a copy of the current roster from Symond.

For subscriptions to the paper copy of the LoAR, please contact Symond, above. The cost for an LoAR subscription is $25.00 a year. Please make all checks or money orders payable to "SCA Inc. – College of Arms." For subscriptions to the electronic copy of the LoAR, please contact Laurel at herald@sca.org. The electronic copy is available free of charge.

For all administrative matters, or for questions about whom to send to, please contact the incoming Laurel King of Arms, Master Francois la Flamme, c/o Wendel Bordelon, 15910 Val Verde Drive, Houston TX, 77083, 713-918-2947, wendel_bordelon@bmc.com.

Until then, I remain

In service

Elsbeth Anne Roth
Laurel Queen of Arms


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