2527 East 3rd Street Tucson AZ 85716 bnevins@nexiliscom.com 10 April 2002, A.S. XXXVI Several submissions' commentaries were cut off or clipped close in the January 2002 LoAR. These are the submissions with their rulings in their entireties. We are sorry for the inconvenience. ANSTEORRA ACCEPTANCES Elizabeth Curry. Household name Greyhound Pack. There are two issues that need to be addressed for this submission. The first issue is whether Pack is acceptable as a household designator. The documentation provided in the LoI for use of Pack was: The Oxford English Dictionary, Vol. 9, pg. 39, s.n. pack defines it as a company or set of persons and dates the word packe to 1578. The Middle English Dictionary, Part P.1, Sherman M. Kuhn, ed., published 1981, University of Michigan Press on pg. 560, s.n. pak defines the word as an assemblage of people; a company, band and dates the word pak to 1425 and pack to 1400. Given this definition, if we register Company and Band as household designators, we should also permit Pack. There are at least forty registrations of household names with the designator Company (not including variant spellings). There are three registrations that include some form of the word Band as the designator: The Blue Band (Fionnbh{a'}rr Starfyr of the Isles, October 1996), Drafen War Band (Gregory of York, April 1983), and Warband die Steiner Wache (Canton of Steinsee, April 1997). As Company and Band are registerable as household designators, Pack is as well. The second issue is whether the combination of elements in this submission is intrusively modern, which has previously been cause for return: [Artemisia, Principality of. Name for the Artemisian Tank Corps.] The name here is intrusively modern. The fact that the individual elements may be period (though with different meanings than the submitters are desirous of) is overwhelmed by the modern connotations of the phrase. (LoAR 02/91, R-Atenveldt) Grayhound was used in a period sign name, The Syne of the Grayhound, dated to 1522 on p. 83 (section 1, column 1) of William Jerdan, ed., "The Visit of the Emperor Charles V to England, A.D. 1522", Rutland Papers (Camden Society, 1842). Commenters voiced concern that Greyhound Pack was overly reminiscent of a group of dogs, specifically greyhounds. In the precedent above, a Tank Corps is not a period type of assembled group. The combination of Tank and Corps combined to form what could be viewed as a designator that was certainly not a period concept. In this case, a group of greyhounds is a period concept. Therefore, the secondary meaning of Greyhound Pack falls into the same category as Drew Steele. Both may be considered "joke names", but both are period concepts and so are not excessively obtrusive. Tank Corps falls into the same category as Porsche Audi, which was returned in August of 1992: The fact that this is a "joke name" is not, in and of itself, a problem. The College has registered a number of names, perfectly period in formation, that embodied humor: Drew Steele, Miles Long, and John of Somme Whyre spring to mind as examples. They may elicit chuckles (or groans) from the listener, but no more. Intrusively modern names grab the listener by the scruff of the neck and haul him, will he or nill he, back into the 20th Century. A name that, by its very presence, destroys any medieval ambience is not a name we should register. (Porsche Audi, Returned, LoAR 08/92, pg. 28) Therefore, as Pack is a registerable household designator and Greyhound Pack is not obtrusively modern, this household name is registerable. ATENVELDT ACCEPTANCES Iamys MacMurray de Morayshire. Name and device (see RETURNS for badge). Paly vert and argent, two wyverns erect respectant sable and on a chief azure three mullets argent. There was some question about whether this name violated the prohibition of registering clan names in conjunction with clan seats. The Murray family derives their name from the land they were given, today known as Moray or Morayshire. MacMurray is a Scots or Anglicized Irish form of Mac Muireadhaigh, meaning 'son of Muireadhach'. These are separate and distinct families. Therefore, while Iamys Murray de Morayshire would be presumptuous by being equivalent to Murray of Moray, Iamys MacMurray de Morayshire is not presumptuous. MIDDLE ACCEPTANCES Jaida bint Salim. Name change from Agnes Gaillard and badge. (Fieldless) A mullet per pale azure and vert. Her previous name, Agnes Gaillard, is released. The badge does not conflict with a badge of Eleanor Leonard, (Tinctureless) A mullet of four points distilling a goutte. Eleanor Leonard has in the past offered to give permission to conflict for all but a small subset of the possible tincture combinations represented by her tinctureless badge (see the Cover Letter for the LoAR of September 1991 for a discussion of her initial offer). Laurel has been working with Eleanor to implement this blanket permission, which she still supports. The implementation is explained in this month's cover letter. This badge is eligible to use the letter of permission because it uses a divided tincture mullet. Without the permission to conflict, this would be in conflict, with one CD for fieldlessness, no type difference between mullets of four and five points, and no difference for omitting the small goutte, an artistic detail. ANSTEORRA RETURNS Muirenn Faulkner. Device. Argent, a falcon and on a chief sable three fountains. Conflict with Alesia de Maris of Ravenstar, Argent, a raven close, on a chief sable three mullets Or. There is one CD for the difference in type and tincture of tertiary charges. However, there is no difference between ravens and falcons. The device is also in conflict with Jennifer Keruer, Argent, a Cornish chonugh and on a chief embattled sable three plates. There is a CD for embattling the chief, but nothing by RfS X.4.j for the tincture change only of the roundels. There is no difference between the falcon and the Cornish chough. For more details on the reason why falcons have no difference from either ravens or Cornish choughs, see the cover letter. CAID RETURNS Andrei Grigorievich Topolev. Alternate name Andrew MacGregor Toberlivet. The submitted element Toberlivet was submitted as an Anglicized form of a constructed Scottish Gaelic place name. While Tober- is well documented, -livet is only found in one location, Glenlivet. Additionally, this element is particularly problematic since different sources cannot agree on its origin. Darton, Dictionary of Scottish Place Names, (p. 174) describes it as the "elided form of liobhaite: 'of the slippery place'." Johnston (p.193 s.n. Glenl{i'}vet) lists the Gaelic as Gleann Li?mhaid, says that MacBain and Watson think that it comes from the same root as Glenlyon. Under the header Glenlyon on the same page, Johnston says of this name's meaning and origin "Doubtful. Perh. G. l? omhuinn, 'coloured river'; perh. fr. lighe, 'a flood'." Lacking solid evidence of the meaning of this element and having only the single example of its use in a placename, no pattern has been established that supports its use in other Gaelic placenames, including Scots forms of those placenames. MIDDLE RETURNS Brangwayn Snowden. Device. Quarterly per fess rayonny Or and gules, in bend two birds displayed sable. The birds were originally blazoned as "ravens displayed". Ravens are not found in the displayed posture in period heraldry. They are close by default and almost always found in that posture. The unusual posture makes them more closely resemble eagles, which are usually found in the displayed posture. Because of the difficulty of identifying these birds as any particular sort of bird, they have been reblazoned as generic birds. See the cover letter of January 2000 for a more complete discussion of the interaction between bird type and bird posture. The device therefore conflicts with Edward de Maccuswell, Per saltire argent and sable, in pale two double-headed eagles displayed sable. There is one CD for changing the field. There is no difference for arrangement by RfS X.4.g. This rule states "Changing the relative positions of charges in any group placed directly on the field or overall is one clear difference, provided that change is not caused by other changes to the design." Here, the change of arrangement is due to another change to the design: the field tincture. The black birds in Edward's arms may not lie on the black portions of the field and therefore cannot be in bend like Brangwayn's birds. There is no type difference between these generic birds and the double-headed eagles.