****** Laurel Letter of Pends and Discussion (LoPaD): March 30, 2005
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                                      Society for Creative Anachronism
                                                       College of Arms

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                For the November 2004 meetings, printed March 30, 2005

To all the College of Arms and all others who may read this missive,
from Fran{c,}ois Laurel King of Arms, Evan Wreath, and Margaret
Pelican, greetings.

This letter contains the issues raised in the November 2004 LoAR for
CoA discussion. The text in this letter is copied verbatim from that
LoAR; it is provided here for convenience. As with a February LoI,
these matters are currently scheduled for the Laurel meetings in June
2005. Original commentary must be in the College's hands no later than
April 31 2005. Responses and rebuttals to commentary must be in the
College's hands no later than May 30 2004.

   1. Ealdormere, Kingdom of. Badge. (Fieldless) A wolf passant
      argent, collared sable & langued gules grasping a flag gules,
      three trilliums argent barbed and seeded vert.

      This does appear to be a supporter according to this precedent:
      [(Fieldless) A dog passant Or collared gules sustaining in its
      mouth a flagstaff flying a banner of the Cross of St. George]
      This fieldless badge appears to be a supporter maintaining a
      flag with arms on it. As we do not register supporters, we
      cannot register this. Moreover, we could not register Argent, a
      cross gules to the submitter because he does not have the right
      to display the Cross of Saint George as his own armory. [Luther
      Anshelm, 11/99, R-Caid]

      However, Argent Snail argues that we should overturn this
      precedent based on supporters being almost always rampant and
      provided research directly to Wreath. For this reason we are
      pending this item to allow the college to discuss the question
      of does the posture of the creature effect its status as a
      supporter or an integral charge.

      We expect that Argent Snail will provide the College of Arms
      with her research as part of this discussion.

Pray know that I remain

In service

Fran{c,}ois la Flamme
Laurel Principal King of Arms

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