Society for Creative Anachronism College of Arms 16308 SE 165th St Renton, WA 98058-8221 +1-425-277-0763 herald@sca.org For the September 2007 meetings, printed December 31, 2007 To all the College of Arms and all others who may read this missive, from Elisabeth Laurel, Jeanne Marie Wreath, and Margaret Pelican, greetings. Items listed below in square brackets have not been scheduled yet. For information about future scheduling, please review the status table located on the Web at http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=137 The September Laurel decisions were made at the Pelican meeting held Sunday, September 23, 2007 and at the Wreath Meeting held on Sunday, September 30, 2007. These meetings considered the following letters of intent: Trimaris (30 Apr 2007), Calontir (06 May 2007), Lochac (13 May 2007), {AE}thelmearc (15 May 2007), Drachenwald (20 May 2007), Laurel LoPaD (21 May 2007), East (21 May 2007), Artemisia (22 May 2007), An Tir (23 May 2007), Lochac (27 May 2007), Atlantia (28 May 2007), Ansteorra (29 May 2007), Atenveldt (29 May 2007), and West (31 May 2007). The October Laurel decisions were made at the Pelican meeting held Saturday, October 27, 2007 and the Wreath meeting held Sunday, October 14, 2007. These meetings will consider the following letters of intent: Middle (03 Jun 2007), Outlands (03 Jun 2007), Laurel LoPaD (14 Jun, 2007), West (19 Jun 2007), Gleann Abhann (20 Jun 2007), Calontir (20 Jun 2007), East (24 Jun 2007), [Drachenwald (25 Jun 2007)], Lochac (25 Jun 2007), Outlands (27 Jun 2007), {AE}thelmearc (28 Jun 2007), An Tir (28 Jun 2007), Atlantia (28 Jun 2007), Meridies (28 Jun 2007), Trimaris(28 Jun 2007), Atenveldt (29 Jun 2007), Palimpsest Rules Letter (29 Jun 2007), Ansteorra (30 Jun 2007), Caid (30 Jun 2007), Ealdormere (30 Jun 2007), and Northshield (30 Jun 2007). *All commentary, responses, and rebuttals should have been entered into OSCAR by September 30, 2007.* The November Laurel decisions were made at the Pelican meeting held Sunday, November 4, 2007 and the Wreath meeting held Saturday, November 17, 2007. These meetings considered the following Letters of Intent: East (03 Jul, 2007), Gleann Abhann (05 Jul, 2007), Loyall (10 Jul, 2007), Laurel LoPaD (15 Jul, 2007), [Drachenwald (20 Jul, 2007)], Meridies (25 Jul, 2007), Calontir (26 Jul, 2007), Atlantia (26 Jul, 2007), West (27 Jul, 2007), Atenveldt (28 Jul, 2007), Outlands (30 Jul, 2007), Lochac (30 Jul, 2007), Ansteorra (31 Jul, 2007), Siren LoItP (31 Jul, 2007), [An Tir (31 Jul, 2007)], and Artemisia (31 Jul, 2007). *All commentary, responses, and rebuttals should have been entered into OSCAR by October 31, 2007.* The December Laurel decisions were made at the Pelican meeting held on Saturday, December 15, 2007 and the Wreath meeting held on Sunday, December 16, 2007. These meetings considered the following letters of intent: [Middle (04 Aug, 2007)], Northshield (09 Aug, 2007), East (10 Aug, 2007), East (16 Aug, 2007), {AE}thelmearc (17 Aug, 2007), [Drachenwald (20 Aug, 2007)], Laurel LoPaD (22 Aug, 2007), Calontir (25 Aug, 2007), Siren LoItUP (26 Aug, 2007), Outlands (27 Aug, 2007), Atlantia (28 Aug, 2007), [An Tir (30 Aug, 2007)], [Lochac (30 Aug, 2007)], Meridies (30 Aug, 2007), and Caid (31 Aug, 2007). *All commentary, responses, and rebuttals should have been entered into OSCAR by Friday, November 30, 2007.* The January Laurel decisions will be made at the Pelican meeting held on aturday, January 19, 2007. and the Wreath meeting held on Saturday, January 12 2008. These meetings will consider the following letters of intent: Atenveldt (01 Sep, 2007), East (06 Sep, 2007), Caid (20 Sep, 2007), Gleann Abhann (20 Sep, 2007), [Drachenwald (24 Sep, 2007)], Northshield (27 Sep, 2007), West (27 Sep, 2007), Ansteorra (29 Sep, 2007), Calontir (29 Sep, 2007), Outlands (29 Sep, 2007), [An Tir (30 Sep, 2007)], Atlantia (30 Sep, 2007), {AE}thelmearc (30 Sep, 2007), Calontir (30 Sep, 2007), Meridies (30 Sep, 2007), and Siren LoItP (30 Sep, 2007). *All commentary, responses, and rebuttals should be entered into OSCAR by Monday, December 31, 2007.* The February Laurel decisions will be made at the Pelican meeting on Saturday, February 16, 2008 and the Wreath meeting held in February 2008. These meetings will consider the following letters of intent: Laurel LoPaD (08 Oct, 2007), [Middle (14 Oct, 2007)], [Atenveldt (15 Oct, 2007)], [Drachenwald (20 Oct, 2007)], [Caid (26 Oct, 2007)], Laurel LoPaD (28 Oct, 2007), Atlantia (29 Oct, 2007), [An Tir (30 Oct, 2007)], [Ansteorra (30 Oct, 2007)], [Lochac (30 Oct, 2007)], [Meridies (30 Oct, 2007)], [Artemisia (31 Oct, 2007)], [Caid (31 Oct, 2007)], Calontir (31 Oct, 2007), East (31 Oct, 2007), Northshield (31 Oct, 2007), Outlands (31 Oct, 2007), [Trimaris (31 Oct, 2007)], and West (31 Oct, 2007). *All commentary, responses, and rebuttals should be entered into OSCAR by Thursday, January 31, 2008.* The March Laurel decisions will be made at the Pelican meeting (March 22) and Wreath meetings held in March 2008. These meetings will consider the following letters of intent: [Atenveldt (20 Nov, 2007)], [Outlands (21 Nov, 2007)], [East (23 Nov, 2007)], [An Tir (26 Nov, 2007)], [Northshield (26 Nov, 2007)], [Atlantia (27 Nov, 2007)], [Ansteorra (28 Nov, 2007)], [Lochac (28 Nov, 2007)], [Meridies (29 Nov, 2007)], West (29 Nov, 2007), [Artemisia (30 Nov, 2007)], [{AE}thelmearc (30 Nov, 2007)], and [Trimaris (30 Nov, 2007)]. *All commentary, responses, and rebuttals should be entered into OSCAR by Friday, February 29, 2008.* _Not all Letters of Intent may be considered when they are originally scheduled on this cover letter. The date of mailing of the LoI, date of receipt of the Laurel packet, or other factors may delay consideration of certain Letters of Intent. Additionally, some letters of intent received may not have been scheduled because the administrative requirements (receipt of the forms packet, receipt of the necessary fees, et cetera) have not yet been met._ REMINDER: Until all administrative requirements are met, the letter may not be scheduled. **** From Pelican: Names No Longer SCA-Compatible **** There are several SCA-compatible given names whose registrations have fallen dramatically since 2000: * "Rhonwen" - 5 registrations * "Corwin" and "Corwyn" - 5 registrations * "Rowena" and "Rowenna" - 4 registrations * "Tegan" - 4 registrations * "Megan" - 1 registration (We note that the attested Welsh name "Megen" remains registerable) * "Rowan" and "Rowen" as feminine names - 1 registration. There are also a few SCA-compatible bynames whose popularity has similarly declined since 2000: * "the Lost" - 1 registration While we do not know how many examples of these names have been returned at kingdom since 2000, the numbers arriving and being registered at Laurel strongly suggest that the popularity of these names has declined sufficiently to disallow their continued registration. Therefore, due to this and to the lack of any new documentation for use of these names by humans (or in the case of "Rowan"/"Rowen" by women) in period, they are no longer SCA-compatible. Barring documentation for such usage, these names will no longer be registerable after the May 2008 decision meeting. **** From Pelican: Unmarked Patronymics in Russian Names **** The submission of the name "Mariia Kotok", registered on this month's LoAR, raised the question of whether unmarked patronymics were used in Russian names. Precedent set in October 2002 forbids the registration of unmarked patronymics in Russian names: "Bola" is a Russian masculine given name. Lacking evidence that Russian used unmarked patronymic bynames, we have changed this to the patronymic form Bolin in order to register this name. [Gorm Bolin, 10/2002, A-Middle] An informal letter from Paul Wickenden of Thanet accompanied the submission and argued that the name used to document "Kotok" ("Kulik Kotok") does, in fact, show an unmarked patronymic, and that unmarked patronymics can be found in Russian manuscripts. However, no examples beyond the one cited were provided in this letter, and this example is problematic because it is possible that the byname, which derives from name meaning "cat", can be interpreted as a descriptive byname. We charged the College with finding additional evidence of unmarked patronymics in Russian. Sufficient evidence was found to suggest that unmarked patronymics are an extremely rare, but occasionally found pattern in Russian names. First is the attestation of experts in Russian names for such a pattern. Paul Wickenden's statement is noted above. In addition, Unbegaun, _Russian Surnames_, p 2, notes "The use of a non-modified individual name as surname is quite exceptional", and on p 33, "In most cases such names are of Ukrainian or White Russian origin." This statement suggests a known, but extremely rare practice. While it does not explicitly date this practice to our period, in combination with Wickenden's statement, it is strongly suggestive. However, proof by assertion, even by respected experts is insufficient without actual examples of a naming pattern. So, what did the commenters find? Fause Lozenge provided several possible examples: They [unmarked patronyms] were definitely used in the East Slavic-speaking world: Unbegaun (274) has a few Ukrainian examples, and in the preceding few pages he has many examples of Ukrainian asyndetic patronymics from diminutives. He also has (307-8) some examples of Belarusian asyndetic patronymics. Paul's dictionary has quite a few names that could be examples. For the masc. name , for instance, the citation is 1563. Here are some others, in each case listed under the second element as a masc. name: * Fedor Spiachei 1524 * Andrei Spudinka 1560 * Senka Steban 1495 * Fedot Striapko 1462 * Ivan Struga 1579 * Vasiuk Sused 1500 * Fedor Akhmyl 1332 * Mikifor Aksak ~1495 * Ivan Baba 1424 * Shvarn Boldyzh' 1151 How many are actually patronymic is another question; some might be descriptive epithets that Paul (or his sources) didn't recognize as such, and I suppose that we might even have some double forenames here." This list supports the statement by the experts that unmarked patronymics are found but are rare. Given this, we feel that it is reasonable to allow the registration of unmarked patronymics in Russian names. However, it should be noted that this practice is rare at best, and should be discouraged. **** From Pelican: Scribal Abbreviations and Scottish Patronymics **** The College of Arms has, by long tradition, declined to register scribal abbreviations: Note that long tradition indicates that the Society registers the full form of the name, not a specific scribal abbreviation of it. [December 1983] The exception, although never expressly addressed by precedent, has been Scottish and Anglicized Irish surnames documented from Scots, English, and Latin language documents. These names have been regularly registered using the abbreviated patronymic markers _M'_ and _Mc_, while the Gaelic equivalents have consistently been registered with the abbreviations expanded. This registration was due to the uncertainty of whether _M'_ and _Mc_ were abbreviations or actual variant spellings. It is time to bring this practice to a close and treat patronymic markers in names recorded in Scots, English, or Scottish and Irish Latin documents the same way we treat all other abbreviations. First, are these truly scribal abbreviations? This certainly appears to be the case. Effric Neyn Ken3ocht Mcherrald notes: As far as I can gather, apostrophes weren't actually used in period Scots (at least not in manuscripts), but rather are a modern editorial representation of various period Scottish abbreviation marks. Further, these abbreviation marks were used to indicate omitted letters in the spelling, not omitted sounds in pronunciation. MacLysaght, _The Surnames of Ireland_, p. x, agrees with this assessment: The practice of differentiating between Mac and Mc (and the now almost obsolete M') is fortunately dying out. There is no difference: Mc is simply an abbreviation of Mac. So, then, what do these abbreviations represent? In patronymics that follow either the individual's given name or a descriptive byname that modifies the individual's given name (that is to say a first-generation patronymic) this is clear -- _Mc_ and _M'_ are, as MacLysaght notes, an abbreviation of _Mac_. Because of this, we will expand such abbreviations for first-generation patronymics recorded in Scots or Scottish and Irish Latin documents, as well as Anglicized Irish names, as _Mac_ or _mac_. What about patronymics that follow other patronymics, that is to say second-generation patronymics? This is trickier, because the phonetic rendering of such patronymics varies according to the language in which they are recorded and the date when the document was written. Effric Neyn Ken3ocht Mcherrald provides this analysis: I now am of the opinion that both and in Scots language documents were always an abbreviation for Scots . There are two key considerations that have persuaded me. First, in all but a very few names, genitive forms of Gaelic are also lenited and so pronounced with a "v" sound, not an "m" sound. Second, it simply makes very little sense to speculate that in Scots or would be an abbreviation for expanded or the like. Consider, if the clerk's intention were to render that part of the name as a phonetic representation of Gaelic, he would use a , even in an abbreviation -- as was actually done in examples such as and . And if it were not his intention to render that part of the name as a phonetic representation of Gaelic --as evidenced by using instead of -- then there is no reason to think the expanded form the abbreviation was intended to represent would have used an <-i-> or <-e-> instead of an <-a->, either. (Why assume the vowel would be phonetic when the initial letter was not?) That, in non-abbreviated forms in Scots, <-a-> forms were actually used in the relevant positions is demonstrated by examples such as of ... The only question with regard to (or ) in any of these languages [Latin, Scots, and Anglicized Irish] is not whether or not it was an abbreviation, but what exactly it was an abbreviation for. As discussed earlier, I now think that in Scots it was an abbreviation specifically for . In Gaelic it was an abbreviation for any of the various declined and/or lenited forms of for the relevant period, including Old/Middle genitive/lenited genitive , Early Modern genitive , and Early Modern lenited genitive . In Latin, it depends on the particular period and originating culture -- that is, for 12th century Latin produced by Gaels, it might represent or the like, for 16th century Latin produced by Lowlanders, I would expect it to be the same as in Scots (and so ). Given this, then, for names found in Scots documents and for Anglicized Irish names, the abbreviations _M'_ and _Mc_ will be expanded to "Mac" in both first- and second-generation patronymics. For Latin, _M'_ and _Mc_ will be expanded as _Mac_ in first- generation patronymics and as either _Mac_ or _Mic_, depending on similar expanded Latin examples in contemporary sources, or, preferably, from the same document. Similarly, the parallel abbreviation _Vc_ will be expanded to _Vic_ or _Vyc_ depending on the practice of the time and document in which it is found; this applies to Scots, Anglicized Irish, and Latin documents. For all languages, the capitalization used in the source may be retained (that is to say _Mac_ and _mac_ are interchangeable in this context as are _Vyc_/_Vic_ and _vyc_/_vic_). **** From Wreath: On Bridges **** The bridge is a period heraldic charge, with examples found in England (e.g. the arms of Trowbridge), Germany (the civic arms of Kitzing), and elsewhere. It's a popular charge in the Society as well, but over the years an entirely different form has developed. Bridges in period heraldry varied somewhat, but there were some features that remained the same. All the examples we've found have been throughout; all have had at least three spans or arches. Most had water flowing under the arches, and a fair number were embattled along the top edge. A few had towers separating the arches, but that seems to have been a purely artistic point. In the Society, however, the typical bridge is _not_ throughout, does _not_ have multiple arches, and has no water beneath it. The most common form has two towers with a single span between them. Current policy grants no difference in Society armory between a castle and a bridge, and given our usual non-period depiction of the latter, the policy makes sense. There are probably too many not-throughout bridges already registered to try to amend our definitions. We hereby rule officially that, in Society armory, the default bridge is not throughout. (It's easy enough to blazon a throughout bridge when one is submitted.) However, we also rule that, in Society armory, there is no default number of spans; the number must, in every case, be explicitly blazoned. A bridge drawn in the period style -- throughout, three or more spans -- _will_ be granted difference from a castle, per RfS X.4.e. And, at the risk of sounding metaphorical, we'd _like_ there to be water under the bridge. **** From Wreath: Linden Trees **** A submission this month raised the question of the depiction of linden leaves. Depictions in the SCA have varied over the years, with some being pointy oval-shaped leaves more usually associated with laurel trees, to the 'invected bushy' style favored by grade-schoolers. A period depiction of linden leaves can be found in the arms of von Linden, 1605, in Siebmacher, plate 141, in the center of the top row. In this case, we are certain of the identification due to the cant. The leaves shown there are heart-shaped, and we are making this the SCA definition of linden leaves. We have examined the items in the Ordinary which claimed to be linden trees or leaves and reblazoned those which do not have heart-shaped leaves as either _laurel_ or generic trees. **** From Wreath: Poplar Trees **** When researching a submission this month it was discovered that in the past poplar trees have been listed in the Ordinary and Armorial under both Tree - Rounded and Tree - Elongated. In general there is a CD between a rounded tree and an elongated tree; this CD has been upheld as recently as February 2007. We could not find any period examples of poplar trees in heraldry but did find one coat that has a poplar tree, the arms of Gandolfi, in a 19th C. English grant (Fox-Davies' _The Art of Heraldry_, fig.82); and there are some illustrations of poplars in Leonhard's _Grosse Buch der Wappenkunst_, pp.246-7. They're all elongated in shape (rather like corn-dogs, really), and - unless we find period examples - these will be our default poplar tree. Poplar trees come in a variety of shapes including rounded such as the White Poplar or the Tulip Poplar, elongated such as the Lombardy poplar, and in-between such as many of the Black Poplars. The Lombardy poplar was developed in the 17th century; however, it matches the (admittedly post-period) heraldic poplars that we have been able to find. As we grant a CD between a rounded and an elongated tree, it must be clear how a poplar is classified. The SCA has long declined to over specify the charge by use of Linnaean genus and species; it is not an improvement to over specify using the English equivalents. Therefore, the following precedents are established: * The term _poplar_ will refer to a Lombardy Poplar; it is elongated in shape. The use of such a poplar is a step from period practice. * Poplars that are not elongated, such as White Poplars, will simply be blazoned as generic trees. * The poplar tree used by the Barony of Forgotten Sea does not appear to match any known poplar. However, the shape of the tree is grandfathered to the barony. Their badge has been reblazoned to match their arms, and the tree is considered to be a generic tree. **** From Pelican: Should Any Name or Phrase be SCA-Compatible? **** At the 2007 Known World Heralds and Scribes Symposium, I spoke with many heralds about what "quirk" of SCA-name registration bothered them the most. I received two answers from nearly everyone I spoke to: mixed language names, and SCA-compatible names. Mixed language names are a matter of the Rules for Submission; fixing that pain point would require an overhaul of the rules, which I am not willing to undertake at this point. However, SCA-compatible names are a matter of precedent and are created and removed by the studied consideration of the Laurel Sovereigns of Arms. Therefore, I would like to put the same question to the College of Arms as was put by Da'ud ibn Auda on the August 1994 Cover Letter: A number of commenters have stated over the past several of months that the SCA has learned a lot since its early days, and it may be time now to put away some of the "mistakes" we have heretofore continued to register. So I put it to you all now -- Should we discontinue the registration of "SCA-compatible" names that were not used by humans in period... We would invite the College to argue two points: * Should we continue the registration of SCA-compatible names and elements, or discontinue this practice altogether? Please give reasons for your position. Note that this discussion includes elements used in given names, bynames, and non-personal names. * If we continue to register SCA-compatible names and elements, should we continue registering some SCA-compatible names and names elements but cease to register others? If so, which ones and why? Finally, has additional evidence been uncovered to allow the use of some of these SCA-compatible items as documented names and elements? To discuss the second issue, some information and statistics are needed. The following personal given names are currently SCA-compatible: * "Ian", an SCA-compatible Scots name. No evidence this name was used in period in Scotland, altough "Jan"/"Ian" is found in Dutch and other languages. Registered 18 times between 2000 and 2007. * "Rhiannon", the name of a Welsh goddess, not used by humans until the 19th C. Registered 19 times between 2000 and 2007. * "Fiona". Name invented in the 19th C. Registered 12 times between 2000 and 2007. * "Branwen". Name from Welsh legend, not used by humans in period. Registered 10 times between 2000 and 2007. * "Moira". No evidence the name was used in period. Registered 10 times between 2000 and 2007. * "Bronwen". Name from Welsh legend, not used by humans in period. Registered 8 times between 2000 and 2007. * "Kathleen". No evidence this name was used in period. Registered 8 times between 2000 and 2007. * "Guendolen" and "Gwendolen". 8 registrations between 2000 and 2007. * "Keridwen", and all its variants. The name of a Welsh goddess, not used by humans until the 19th C. Registered 7 times between 2000 and 2007. * "Aislinn". No evidence the name was used in period. Registered 7 times between 2000 and 2007. * "Iain". No evidence this name was used as a personal given name in period. Registered 6 times between 2000 and 2007. The following bynames are currently SCA-compatible: * "the Wanderer". Translation of the attested Polish byname "Wandrownyk", "Wanderer" is also an attested late period German byname. SCA-compatible for English. Registered 11 times between 2000 and 2007, although 2 of these registrations evoke the Lingua Anglica clause. * "the Traveller". By precedent, "The byname, though popular in the Society, has not been found in period use." (Is there a valid argument that it is consistent with period practice?) 3 registrations between 2000 and 2007. The following elements are currently SCA-compatible for non-personal names or for constructed locatives used as part of a personal name: * _-crest_ in English constructed placenames. Evidence as a topographic element and used by itself in bynames but not found in placenames. Declared SCA-compatible in 2001, but not registered since that time. * _Keep_ or _-keep_ in English constructed placenames. Evidence as topographic element used in bynames (although not in compound bynames), but not found in placenames. Registered 7 times as part of a branch or guild name and 8 times as part of a locative byname (some but not all are SCA branch names) between 2000 and 2007. * _Dragon_ in English constructed placenames. No evidence for this word used as part of English placenames. 6 registrations that are not holding names or personal names using an SCA branch name. * _-haven_ in English constructed placenames. Precedent holds it is found appended to an existing location name but not with other elements. Registered 11 times since 2000. **** Send What to Whom **** Letters of Intent, Comment, Response, Correction, et cetera are to be posted to the OSCAR online system. No paper copies need be sent. Submission packets (one copy of each name form plus documentation, including petitions; two colored copies of each armory form plus two copies of any associated documentation, including petitions) to the SCA College of Arms, PO Box 31755, Billings, MT 59107-1755. Cheques or money orders for submissions, payable to "SCA Inc.-College of Arms" are to: Laurel Chancellor of Exchequer, 4N400 Church Rd, Bensenville, IL 60106-2928. Send roster changes and corrections to Laurel. College of Arms members may also request a copy of the current roster from Laurel. For a paper copy of a LoAR, please contact Laurel, at the address above. The cost for one LoAR is $3. Please make all checks or money orders payable to "SCA Inc.-College of Arms". For subscriptions to the electronic copy of the LoAR, please contact Laurel at herald@sca.org. The electronic copy is available free of charge. For all administrative matters, please contact Laurel. Pray know that I remain, In service, Elisabeth de Rossignol Laurel Principal Queen of Arms =============================================================================== Created at 2008-01-02T23:54:26