Collected Precedents of the S.C.A.: Manx (non-Gaelic)

Name Precedents: Manx (non-Gaelic)

For names from the Isle of Man rendered in Gaelic, see:

Laurel: Date: (year.month.date) Precedent:
François la Flamme 2004.01 Submitted as Ivar MacGuiness, the submitter requested authenticity for 10th to 16th C Manx/Irish. The LoI stated that the submitter allowed no changes. However, his form clearly shows that he will allow minor changes.

The documentation provided for MacGuiness in the LoI was: "MacGuiness is listed as a variant of Mag Aongusa, on page 74 of Irish Family Names by Kelly." However, no documentation was provided and none was found to support the spelling MacGuiness as a plausible period form. Metron Ariston explains:

[...] J. J. Kneen's The Personal Names of the Isle of Man [...] (p. 127) does cite forms for Guinness (with two "n's") but they are well out of period: Mac Gennis from 1718 and Guinness from 1812 and 1816. Black (Surnames of Scotland, s.n. MacInnes) gives the same patronymic derivation and shows one Donald McKynes from 1514, Duncan M'Kynnes from 1548, John dow M'Aneiss from 1574, John Dow Mc Inoss from 1583 and Mcynwiss from 1525. Here too, however, the orthographies that we associate with the stout are late: McGinnis and M'Guenis both appear only from 1745.

Kneen (p. 127 s.n. Guinness) indicates that this is a variant of Kinnish. Under Kinnish (p. 155) he dates the forms Mac Enys to 1417 and Mac Inesh to 1511. We have changed the byname to the form Mac Enys in order to make this byname authentic for the submitter's requested time and culture. [Ivar Mac Enys, 01/2004, A-Outlands]