PRECEDENTS OF THE S.C.A. COLLEGE OF ARMS

The 1st Tenure of Da'ud Ibn Auda (1st year)

FISH


"There is a CVD for the difference in type between an heraldic dolphin and a generic fish." (LoAR 8/90 p.1).


[Marlin vs. default fish or vs. salmon] "We could not see giving another [CVD] for type of fish." (LoAR 8/90 p.14).


"While we do not consider one type of generic fish to be different from another for purposes of difference, the existence of an heraldic dolphin as a separate and distinct charge is well-documented. Hence [there is a CVD] for type of [fish]." (LoAR 11/90 p.7).


[Whale] "There is a CVD for hauriant embowed vs. hauriant." (LoAR 5/91 p.1).


FLOWERS


[<field> A heliotrope palewise affronty between two others cojoined in base purpure slipped and leaved vert] "Conflict with ....<same field> a basil flower purpure, slipped and leaved vert, with only one CVD for change of number, and with...<different field> a sprig of three roses of Sharon flowers purpure, slipped and leaved vert, with only one CVD for field." (LoAR 8/90 p.18).


[Wreath of violets in orle, blazoned as an orle of violets] "This was returned before in part because the orle of flowers was too similar to the restricted wreath of roses. This issue has not been addressed in the resubmission, and so this must be returned once again for this reason. It was suggested that if the submitter would clearly separate the individual flowers in orle, that this would probably remove the problem." (LoAR 9/90 p.13).


[A double rose argent and sable] "Visual conflict with the Tudor Rose, A double rose argent and gules. While there is just enough technical difference, with one CVD for fieldlessness and another for changing half the tincture of the combined charge, the overwhelming visual similarity to this very famous badge is just too much." (LoAR 9/90 p.15).


"The visual resemblance between an edelweiss flower and an estoile is overwhelming." [note: there was a peripheral charge, so there is no CVD for the difference here] (LoAR 9/90 p.16).


"There is not really any visual difference between quatrefoils and cinquefoils." (LoAR 9/90 p.16).


[Double flowered thistle] "Given the normal emblazon of thistles...wherein the leaves rather than the heads are the most visually prominent element, we could not see giving a CVD for the addition of the second head (not too dissimilarly to not granting a CVD for the difference between an eagle and a double-headed eagle)." (LoAR 10/90 p.14).


"In the SCA, thistles are slipped and leaved by default." (LoAR 11/90 p.11).


[Six roses as primaries vs. six cinquefoils as primaries] "The visual similarity between roses and cinquefoils is too strong to grant the...necessary CVD." (LoAR 11/90 p.18).


"Thistles are slipped and leaved by default in the SCA. A rose proper is gules, barbed vert, seeded Or. By using the heraldic defaults, we have been able to shorten the submitted blazon by six words, a substantial savings." (LoAR 12/90 p.6).


[Garden roses in saltire gules slipped and leaved proper] "Conflict with...a rose gules barbed and seeded proper...There is a CVD for the number of primary charges, but neither the slipping nor the difference between heraldic and garden roses has been considered a CVD before." [Note: this seems partially overruled by a ruling in the LoAR 5/91 p.5 in which the slip of a garden rose was considered half the charge. However, this ruling is more in accordance with previous precedent.] (LoAR 1/91 p.24).


[As tertiaries, a garden rose gules slipped and leaved vert vs. a gules castle] "[there is a CVD for change in] type and change of half the tincture of the tertiary." [Overrules previous precedent on LoAR 1/91 p.24 and before] (LoAR 5/91 p.5).


[On a gyrony field, quatrefoils in annulo vs. crusilly counterchanged] "There is a CVD for the type of charge and a CVD for their arrangement on the field. [The crusilly] is definitely a seme, with crosses overlying the lines of division and cut off by the edge of the shield." (LoAR 5/91 p.7).


"[There is] nothing for the difference between seme of roses and seme of cinquefoils." (LoAR 5/91 p.10).


FRET/FRETTY


"Evidence has been presented that 'a fret' and 'fretty' were considered interchangeable in period, so no difference can be granted between them." (LoAR 7/90 p.16).


[Azure, fretty Or, in bend sinister <two charges> vs. Azure fretty Or] "Since fretty has been shown to be a charge rather than a field treatment in period, X.1 does not apply. There is only one CVD, for the addition of the <charges>." (LoAR 12/90 p.17).


[A saltire triple-parted and fretted] "Clear of...<a fretty only device>, with [a CVD] for the positioning of the 'laths'. While a medieval fretty field generally had three laths along each diagonal, they were evenly spaced out. The proximity of those here clearly make them a saltire." (LoAR 1/91 p.17).


[A catamount couchant guardant, head lowered...] "The primary here is not in a heraldic posture. Nearly every commenter noted that it appeared in a very naturalistic position, crouched upon an (invisible) rock...Nor was the bordure truly fretty, but a kind of semy of lozenges [no interlace lines]. Were there only one of these problems, we would very likely have registered it and told the submitter to 'draw the X correctly'; as it is we felt that a new emblazon is in order." (LoAR 2/91 p.18).


[A fret vert within a bordure gules] "Conflict...with... a fret couped [vert] within a bordure sable, with but a single CVD...for...changing [the bordure's] tincture." [implying that couping the fret isn't sufficient for a CVD] (LoAR 2/91 p.21).


[A bordure triple-parted and fretted] "Bordures cannot be parted and fretted in this manner. (Picture doing it on a roundel, for example...Where would the fretting be?)." (LoAR 4/91 p.14).


[A sea-dragon and a label] "Clear of...a sea-dragon erect within a saltire parted and fretted argent. As Morgan's could just as well (or perhaps better) be blazoned Azure, a sea-dragon erect between two bendlets and two bendlets sinister fretted argent, we see two CVDs for changing the type and number of the secondaries." (LoAR 6/91 p.2).


FRUIT, VEGETABLE and SPICE


"Cloves 'proper' are hereby defined as being dark brown." (LoAR 7/90 p.1).


FUR


"Argent, ermined gules, is a CVD from ermine." (LoAR 7/90 p.6).


"Proper is not a tincture - it is heraldic shorthand. The badgers' heads are argent, marked sable. That's two tinctures. While vair may be listed in the glossary under tinctures, the fact that it is a neutral fur is because it consists of both a metal and a color. Its visual complexity is such that it looks like two tinctures." [a 'complexity count' was made on the above premises] (LoAR 4/91 p.15).


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