3 Las Palomas

Orinda, CA 94563

21 April X (1976)

Karina of the Far West, Laurel Queen of Arms

to the Heralds of the four Kingdoms,


This letter consists entirely of rejections for the Kingdom of the West.



Alexander Graylorn.

We have too many green dragons, especially Akatoro Minimoto. Make it Argent. The name is too similar to Keith Laumer's novel Greylorn--the regional spelling variation between <gray> and <grey> is insufficient--and must be changed.

Amanda Kendal of Westmorland.

Delete the Tudor rose--though she be of the Tudor period, yet she is not one of the Tudors. The name, however, is all right.

Amireck de Nelta.

Conflicts with Hermann Otto Koehlermann: Sable, a bend sinister Or. Confer with local herald.

Andre Lessard.

Again, substitute something else for the Tudor roses. Any kind of lizard would be preferable to the dragon.

Bombor of Bombardia.

Conflicts with Barizani. If thunder and lightning are desired, why not a thunderbolt? Or if bombs are desired, why not, say, Azure, three fireballs Or?

Charles of Dublin.

Conflicts with Armand-Sebastian de la Foret de Sauvigny.

Crostobal degli Glicine che Mangia Uome.

Conflicts with Sieglinde von Krasue: Argent a peacock perched proper. Try a peacock in its pride.

Daniel of Cricketstone.

Conflicts with Grille: Gules, on a bend argent a cricket sable.

Dediana du Corwyn.

Conflicts with Mirbach: Sable, a stag's attires argent.

Diana Elisabeth nicChlurain of Chelsea.

Conflicts with Inverbervie: Azure, a rose argent. Start over.

Diana of the House of Cruzan.

This isn't heraldry, it's nineteenth-century whimsy. Go back to Square One.

Dietrich von dem Weinbergen.

Conflicts with Connecticut: Argent, three grape vines proper.

Elaine Leitmane.

Conflicts with Kelson de la Croix.

George Silvertongue.

I would like the tincture changed to Argent on account of resemblance to Stefen Miluh.

Guy de Montfort.

There already was a Guy de Montfort; he was the brother of Simon IV. The device (Checky sable and argent, a horse's head couped within a bordure, both gules) is probably all right, but the horse's head should be drawn larger than on the emblazon sent to me.

John ap Griffin. badge for Griffin Freehold.

Too close to counterchange of Alfonso de Castile. I suggest either a field vert or a counterchange of John's personal arms (with tower added). Could you find a way of indicating it's the tops of the turrets?

Katwen du Griffin.

Conflicts with Dawn of Jusbourne. Try changing the field to vert.

Reginleif the Unruly.

The name conflicts with Reginleif, a valkyrie in the Elder Edda (thought to mean Gods'-kin). The device probably conflicts with Jiane of Ocuirin: Argent, a horse forcene gules--her counterchange would be very close. Try a smaller fire? (but watch out for James Branch Cabell and Manuel of Poictesme?). However, the Clydesdale horse is in period.

Saint David, College of.

Too close to Walter of Lowestoft: Azure a bend argent, in sinister canton 4 poppy-bolls argent. Try Azure, a laurel wreath, in chief two doves volant and respectant each other argent.

Stephanos Markos ho Martyr.

There already was a Stephen the Martyr--also called First Martyr or Protomartyr--and for that matter St. Mark was a martyr too. Try a different name. However, the device seems to be all right.

William the Wanderer.

Possible conflict with Harold of Pleasure, Mary of Livermore and Michael of Moria. Change the field to azure.

Since I must go to a third page anyway, I will make a few more comments.

The filing fee for the College of Arms is only $1.00, not $1.50. The Kingdom Herald usually charges $2.00, keeping $1.00 for his own expenses and sending $1.00 with the submission. There is also some precedent for the local (e.g., Principality or Barony) herald charging another fifty cents for his own expenses where necessary. You might consult me before doing this.

Please note the enclosed copy of a letter from then-Laurel Harold Breakstone, point out that males and females are not required to register their arms on heater and lozenge shape respectively, but may use either shape. Cartouches, on the other hand, are not suited to either ladies or gentlemen in the Society, having been used chiefly by Princes of the Church. Remember also that badges, including household badges, are borne on roundels, not heaters or any other shape.

I remain at your service,

Karina of the Far West

O.L., Pel., Baroness

Laurel Queen of Arms



cc: Board



Laurel Emeritus

Imperial College of Arms of the

Society for Creative Anachronism, Inc.

25 Winfield

San Francisco, CA 94110

24 June 1972, Anno Societatis VII

Harold Breakstone, O.L., Laurel Principal King of Arms, send courteous greetings unto:

Karina of the Far West, O.L., Principal Herald of the West Kingdom; Alfgar the Sententious, Acting Principal Herald of the East Kingdom; Bran of Cornwall, Dragon Herald of the Middle Kingdom; Ioseph of Locksley, O.L., the Rhymer, Aten Herald (Atenveldt)

My lady, my lords,

Having read the statements submitted to me by Sarkanyi Gero:, Banner Herald and Seraphim Pursuivant, and by other heraldic officers in the Known World, as well as William the Lucky, of Headless House, and other persons not members of the College of Arms or of any Kingdom College, but interested in and knowledgeable in the field of heraldry; and having pursued my own researches in the matter;

I am therefore making and publishing the following policy decision of the Imperial College of Arms, as of this date, and to go into effect immediately, to be executed by the Principal Heralds of the four Kingdoms of the Known World and their subordinates as soon as copies of this letter shall reach them:

That since the custom of having a woman bear her arms upon a lozenge exclusively came into use in Europe in a general fashion only after the close of the period that the Imperial College of Arms takes as its model (1300-1485), the requirement heretofore in the Society that ladies bear their Arms or devices upon a lozenge exclusively is unreasonable; and therefore,

Henceforward from this date, it is no longer required that ladies in the Society for Creative Anachronism bear their Arms or devices upon a lozenge; but full leave is given to any member of the Society, whether male or female, to bear his or her Arms or device upon an escutcheon; and further,

Since during the period before 1485, instances are found, as on seals, of men's Arms being shown on a lozenge, which is admittedly a convenient shape for a seal-maker, full leave is given henceforth to any member of the Society, whether male or female, to bear his or her Arms or device upon a lozenge, and no adverse construction or unworthy interpretation shall be placed upon the fact, if a man choose to do so.

In short, any Society member may design a device to fit upon whatever shape shall be found most pleasing and satisfactory to him or her alone, and may bear his or her device indifferently upon a lozenge or upon an escutcheon; and scribes, calligraphers, and heraldic artists may in the preparation of scrolls or other documents of State, follow the individual preference of the Society member in question, or, in the absence of any preference expressed by the member, may follow their own inclinations at the bidding of their artistic conscience.

Pray believe me, &c., yours, &c.,

Harold Breakstone, O.L., Laurel

King of Arms, S.C.A., Inc.