ARMORY PRECEDENTS OF THE S.C.A. COLLEGE OF ARMS

The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud Ibn Auda (1st year)

Difference (CD)

[Registering Argent, two serpents nowed in a Bourchier knot palewise vert, a bordure counter-compony sable and argent.] Versus ... Argent, a Bourchier knot vert, there are CDs for adding the bordure and for the orientation of the knot. [6/94, p.2]

[Registering Lozengy Or and vert, a griffin segreant maintaining a trefoil within a bordure sable.] Versus ... Checky argent and gules, a griffin sejant, forepaw raised, within a border sable, there are CDs for the changes to the field and for posture of the monster. (While sejant erect and rampant have been declared insufficiently different to qualify for a CD, sejant is sufficiently different -- the angle of the monster's body, that one forepaw (at least) is much farther down, and the noticable changes to the hindquarters all add up to sufficient difference from to allow a CD between the two postures. [6/94, p.4]

[Registering Gules, a sea-swallow migrant between three quatrefoils argent.] Clear of ... Gules, an eagle displayed argent. There is a CD for the addition of the secondary charges, and another for the difference in type of bird. (Blazoned on the LoI as a "tern", that term is post-period, dating to 1678, and it was felt that sea-swallow would be more likely to be drawn with the forked tail, thus helping the difference from an eagle. This difference is probably necessary here, since we do not grant difference between an eagle and a generic "bird".) [6/94, p.5]

[Returning Or, a wingless wyvern statant gules.] Conflict with ... Or, a dragon gules. The only difference is for the removal of the wings. [6/94, p.14]

[Returning Purpure, a mullet of eight interlocking mascles within a bordure Or.] Conflict with ... Per chevron vert and gules, a mullet of eight points voided within a bordure Or. There is a CD for the field, but the differences to the "mullets" are not sufficient for the necessary second. [6/94, p.15]

[Returning Per fess gules and azure, a fess dancetty flory Or.] Conflict with ... Azure, a fess dancetty the two upper points fleur-de-lys Or. While there is a CD for the change to the field, the addition of complex changes to an already complex line of division on only the bottom are not sufficient for the necessary second. [6/94, p.17]

[Registering {Fieldless} On a maple leaf Or a cross formy sable.] Versus ... Sable, on an oak leaf Or a battle-axe sable. there are CDs for fieldless vs. fielded and for maple leaf vs. oak leaf. The two leaves are not so visually similar as to warrant granting no difference between them. [5/94, p.9]

[Returning Per pale argent and sable, two rooks rising respectant counterchanged.] Conflict with ... Per pale argent and sable, two hawks striking respectant counterchanged, all within a bordure gules. There is only one CD for the bordure. The postures of the birds were very nearly identical, with minor changes to the head position being the only noticeable difference. [5/94, p.14]

[Returning Azure, a cross patonce between four roses, a bordure argent.] Conflict with ... Azure, a cross flory between four bear's heads couped argent muzzled gules within a bordure argent. There is only one CD for the change to the type of secondary charges [and nothing for patonce vs. flory]. [5/94, p.16]

[Returning Sable, a sun and on a chief Or, in pale a sword reversed and a sword sable.] Conflict with ... Sable, a mullet of four greater and four lesser points, on a chief Or a spear fesswise sable. There is a CD for the changes to type and number of tertiary charges, but per the precedent set in the LoAR of April 1993, p. 12, nothing for the change between a sun and a compass star ... . [5/94, p.19]

[Returning Azure, a pile inverted ployé argent ermined azure between two cups Or.] Conflict with ... Per chevron sable and ermine, in chief two cups covered Or. There is only one CD for the changes to the field, as we have traditionally not granted difference between per chevron, chapé and a pile inverted. [5/94, p.19]

[Returning Gules, a swan naiant and on a chief argent three roses gules.] Conflict ... with ... Gules, a swan naiant, wings elevated, and on a chief argent three trefoil knots gules. There is a CD for the change to the type of tertiary ... , but the change in wing position is insufficient for the necessary second. [5/94, p.19]

[Returning {Fieldless} A lymphad gules sail set argent.] Conflict with ... Or a galley, sails furled and oars in action, gules, flags azure; ... A ship; ... Argent, a boat gules, and ... Or, a boat gules. In each case, there is one CD for fieldlessness, but nothing for ... the sail. [5/94, p.20]

[Returning {Fieldless} A fire arrow Or enflamed proper.] Numerous conflicts ... with {Field}, an arrow Or. In each case there is only one CD for fieldlessness [and nothing for the enflaming]. [5/94, p.20]

[Returning Azure, a goat's head couped within a bordure argent.] Conflict with ... Azure, two rams heads in bend sinister erased and respectant within a bordure argent. There is only one CD for the change in number of primary charges [and nothing for type]. [5/94, p.21]

[A significant revision of RFS X.4.j. For the full, formatted text see Appendix A.] [4/94c, pp.9-10]

[Registering Vert, three apples Or and a chief ermine.] Versus ... Vert, three acorns Or, and ... Vert, three pineapples Or, there are CDs for type of primary charge and addition of the chief. One commenter noted that Papworth put pineapples and apples together, but Parker (p. 462) makes it clear that "pineapples" are what we generally call "pine cones", which are not only visually different enough for a CD, but mundane default puts them stem to base, adding to the visual differences. [4/94, p.14]

[Returning Azure, a Doric colonnaded portico within a laurel wreath argent.] Conflict with ... Azure, a house argent, and a number of others, Azure, a (temple, church, etc.) argent. In each case there is only once CD for the addition of the laurel wreath. As several commenters if we do not give a CD between even radically different types of ships, we should not do so among various types of buildings. Further, the type of [the] "house" is completely unspecified. As we do not grant a CD between a generic bird and any other specific bird, we cannot see granting difference between a generic house (building) and any other type of house (building). [4/94, p.16]

[Returning {Fieldless} A Catherine wheel azure.] Conflict with ... A wheel, and with ... Dark, a wheel light. In each case there is a CD for fieldlessness, but nothing for the tincture [or type] of the wheels. [4/94, p.16]

[Returning Azure, a German panther rampant contourny argent.] Conflict with ... Azure, a panther rampant argent, crowned Or. There is but one CD, for the orientation of the monster. [Implying no CD between types of panther.] [4/94, p.17]

[Returning Per bend azure and sable, on a bend wavy between two oak-leaves argent three holly-leaves azure.] Prior Laurel precedent (December 1993 LoAR, p. 12) does not grant a CD between oak leaves and holly leaves. As a consequence this is being returned for the use of two different but heraldically similar charges on a single device. [4/94, p.18]

[Returning Or, a slip and on a chief vert three gouttes Or.] Blazoned on the LoI as "an olive slip", there was nothing even on the large emblazon to denote that this was an olive slip as opposed to any other kind (even a sprig of laurel would have been an adequate blazon). As a consequence, this conflicts with ... Or, a sprig of three linden leaves and on a chief vert a cavendish knot Or. There is CD for the multiple changes to the tertiaries, but we cannot in good conscience see another for the change to number of leaves on the sprig. [4/94, p.19]

[Returning {Fieldless} A cross gurgity reversed, interlaced with an annulet argent.] The style of the badge, with its interlaced charges, appears modern rather than period in style. There is also a conflict with ... Azure, a Catherine wheel argent. ... [T]he difference to only the number of "arms" of the "wheel" is insufficient for [a CD]. [4/94, p.21]

[Registering {Fieldless} In pale two triangles, points to center, conjoined gules.] This is clear of ... An hourglass gules, with CDs for fieldlessness and for differences to the charge (removing the frame). [3/94, p.6]

[Registering Vair, a panther rampant guardant gules spotted argent incensed proper.] Versus ... Argent, a leopard rampant gules, there is a CD for the field, and, as leopards and panthers were considered to be different beasts in late period, a second CD for the type of critter. [3/94, p.10]

[Registering Argent, on a pale gules a wolf sejant affronty argent overall a laurel wreath vert.] Versus ... Argent, on a pale gules a griffin segreant argent, overall a laurel wreath counterchanged, there is a CD for changing the tincture of the laurel wreath and a CD for changing both the type and posture of the tertiary. [3/94, p.11]

[Registering Per chevron sable and Or, two Maltese crosses and a griffin counterchanged.] Versus ... Per chevron sable and Or, in chief three crosses patty of the second, there are CDs for changing the arrangement (three in chief to 2 and 1) and for changing the type and tincture of the bottom-most charge. [3/94, p.12]

[Returning Gules, a latin cross throughout parted and fretted argent interlaced with an annulet Or.] Conflict with ... Gules, a cross voided argent. There is only one CD for the addition of the annulet. [Implying there is no CD between a cross voided and one parted and fretted.] [3/94, p.15]

In each case, the enarching of the bend is only an artistic variant and counts for nothing. [3/94, p.15]

[Returning Sable, a compass star elongated gules, fimbriated argent, overall a lion's head cabossed Or ... .] [T]here is a conflict with ... Sable, a sun gules fimbriated Or, surmounted by a panther's head erased reversed Or. There is a possible CD for the changes to the overall charge, but no more than that, as by current precedent there is not a CD between a compass star and a sun [and nothing for the tincture of the fimbriation]. [3/94, p.15]

[Returning Gules, an axe and in chief three drinking horns Or.] Conflict with ... Gules, a broad axe argent, the handle sable, the blade turned to dexter. There is one CD for the addition of the charges in chief but nothing for the change of tincture to the haft only. [3/94, p.16]

[Returning Argent, a tree eradicated gules between flaunches counter ermine.] Conflict with ... Argent, an oak branch eradicated gules, with one CD for the addition of the flaunches, but by prior precedent nothing for the difference between a branch and a tree. [3/94, p.17]

[Returning Azure, in sinister chief a cross parted and fretted, in dexter base a mermaid argent, tailed and crined, maintaining an estoile Or.] Conflict with ... Azure, a cross double-parted argent. There is one CD for the addition of the mermaid but nothing for the enhancement of the cross to sinister chief or for the fretting at its cross point. [3/94, p.18]

[Returning Vert, a German panther rampant Or breathing flames gules, maintaining a fleur-de-lis argent.] Conflict with ... Per chevron rayonny erminois and sable, in base a panther rampant Or, incensed proper. There is a CD for the change to the field, but since the move ... is forced, nothing for position on the field, nor can we see granting a CD between continental and insular panthers. [3/94, p.19]

[T]here is a CD for ... the differences between a spider and an ant. While we would probably not grant sufficient difference between the two, when they are used as the primary charge, a CD can be granted. [2/94, p.6]

[Returning Argent, a panther sejant, the dexter forepaw raised, sable spotted of various tinctures incensed proper, in chief five decrescents sable.] Visual conflict with ... Argent, a panther sejant erect pean armed and issuing flames form the mouth and ears gules, orbed azure. While there is enough technical difference between the two, with a CD for the addition of the secondary group and another for the change to tincture of the primary, the visual reality is that of a CD for the addition of the decrescents and "somebody's done something strange to the spots on the cat". [2/94, p.16]

[Returning {Fieldless} A dragon's head couped sable.] Conflict with ... Paly argent and gules, a drakkar prow sable ... . There is ... nothing for difference in type of the charge. [2/94, p.16]

[Returning Azure, two harps and a wolf sejant erect guardant argent.] Conflict with ... Azure a wolf rampant argent. And with ... Azure a wolf salient argent. This was the subject of a lively debate at the Laurel meeting, as well as in the commentary. In the end, the basic philosophical position of subsuming changes to posture, orientation, type, etc. under changes to number (e.g., Azure, two lions combattant Or conflicts with Azure, a lion rampant Or, with one CD for adding the second lion, but nothing for then changing its orientation) required this to be seen as a conflict, too, with a CD for changing the number of charges, but nothing for then changing their type as well. [2/94, p.16]

[Returning Sable, a swan naiant argent and a demi-sun issuant from sinister chief Or.] Conflict with ... Sable, a swan close argent ducally gorged and chained Or and with ... Sable, a swan close within a bordure engrailed Or. In each case there is one CD, for addition of the peripheral charge or for the change to its type, respectively [implying that there is no CD between the postures naiant and close]. [2/94, p.16]

[Returning Quarterly checky sable and argent and argent, a cross of two thornvines wavy vert.] Finally, it conflicts with ... Or, a cross raguly vert and with ... Argent, a cross slipped vert. In each case there is one CD for the change to the field, but nothing for the very minor visual differences to the type of cross. [2/94, p.18]

[Returning Azure, on a cloud argent, a horseshoe inverted sable.] Conflict with ... Azure, a Boreas affronty argent. There is only one CD for the addition of the tertiary, and even that is minimal because it lies where the "face" of [the] Boreas is. [2/94, p.18]

As noted in the LoAR of 17 October 1993, p. 17, there is not a CD between a snowflake and an escarbuncle. [2/94, p.19]

[Returning Or, a hunting horn reversed gules, stringed azure, and a chief checky argent and gules.] Conflict with ... Or, a buglehorn stringed and virolled gules. There is only one CD, for the addition of the chief [implying that there is no CD for reversing the horn]. [2/94, p.20]

[Returning Barry wavy azure and argent, two dragons combattant gules maintaining between them a sword inverted, all within a laurel wreath Or.] Conflict with ... Barry wavy and per pale azure and argent, two wyverns combattant gules. There is a CD for the addition of the laurel wreath, but the complexity of the two fields makes it difficult to warrant granting a second for the per pale line of [the latter]. [2/94, p.20]

[E]narching of [bars] is a period artistic convention to represent the curvature of the shield [and so not worth a CD]. [2/94, p.20]

[Returning Sable, in pale a compass star and three bars wavy couped argent.] The badge also conflicts with ... Sable, three bars wavy argent, and with ... Gules, three bars wavy argent and in chief a mullet of six points of the second. Against [the second] there is a CD for the addition of the charge in chief, and against [the third] for the tincture of the field [implying that there is no CD for couping the bars in this case]. [2/94, p.23]

[Registering Per bend sable and vert, a griffin couchant argent.] Versus ... Azure, an Assyrian griffin couchant gazing to chief wings displayed argent, there is a CD for the change to the field, and Laurel precedent (LoAR of 17 June 1990, p. 1) grants another for posture in the difference between wings addorsed and wings displayed. [1/94, p.1]

[Registering Per pale and per chevron argent and sable, in chief two eagles displayed counterchanged.] Versus ... Per bend sable and argent, two eagles displayed, wings inverted, counterchanged, there is a CD for the change to the field and another for position on the field. This is not as easy to see as a change for, say, posture, but still exists. Because the charges are counterchanged, they could legitimately be placed anywhere on the field, even over the line(s) of division. As a consequence, the change in position of the birds cannot be considered to be "forced" by the field division (though in [the latter] they are in the expected position, one on either side of the line of division), thus giving a CD for position on the field. [1/94, p.1]

[Returning Purpure, a bird close, a bordure rayonny argent.] Conflict with ... Purpure, a heron close supporting in dexter upraised talon a rose argent barbed and seeded proper. There is one CD for the addition of the bordure but as a generic "bird", this could legitimately be drawn as nearly any kind of bird, and we cannot in good conscience grant a second CD for type. [1/94, p.13]

[Returning Azure mullety Or, a vol argent.] Conflict with ... Azure, two wings conjoined argent enflamed between in annulo six mullets of six points Or. In this case there are no CDs for the number or type or arrangement of the mullets and nothing for the enflaming of the wings. [1/94, p.15]

[Returning Azure, a wolf's fang within a bordure argent.] Conflict with ... Azure a shark's tooth point downwards proper. There is only one CD for the addition of the bordure. [1/94, p.16]

[Returning {field} a bear rampant contourny gules.] Conflict with ... Or, a bear legged of an eagle's legs rampant to sinister gules. There is one CD, for the changes to the field, but the difference in the legs only is insufficient for the second. [12b/93, p.10]

[Returning {Fieldless} On a heart argent a seadragon rampant gules.] Conflict with ... Argent, a wyvern passant gules. There is only one CD for the posture of the monster. Several commenters submitted evidence that heart shapes were used as a medium, albeit only occasionally, for heraldic display in period. See, e.g., Ottfried Neubecker, Heraldry, Sources, Symbols and Meaning, page 76. [12b/93, p.12]

[Returning {Fieldless} Three holly leaves conjoined in pall inverted vert, fructed gules.] Conflict with ... {Fieldless} Three oak leaves conjoined in pall inverted vert, surmounted by an acorn Or. There is a CD for the fieldless difference, but given their similarity in outline, the difference in the type of leaves was insufficient to grant the second. [12b/93, p.12]

[Registering Or, on an eagle displayed sable an inescutcheon argent all within a bordure purpure semy of crosses formy argent.] Versus ... Or, on an eagle displayed sable within a bordure gules charged with eight cinquefoils argent a mullet of the second, there is a CD for the change to the tincture of the bordure. While the mullet ... cannot be "of the second" (which would make it sable on sable), this does leave its actual tincture in question. It has been our rule in cases where there is a question to give our submitters the benefit of the doubt. As a consequence this has a second CD for type and tincture of the charge on the eagle. [12a/93, p.1]

[Registering {field}, an equal-armed Celtic cross flory Or.] Versus ... {Fieldless} An equal-armed Celtic cross Or, there are CDs for fielded versus fieldless and for flory versus potent. [12a/93, p.12]

[Returning {Fieldless} A tri-mount couped Or.] Conflict with ... Sable, a two-peaked mountain couped Or, capped argent. There is one CD for fieldlessness but nothing for the artistic variation of the mountain. [12a/93, p.15]

[Returning {field} three iris blossoms sable, slipped and leaved vert, conjoined at the bases.] Conflict with ... {Fieldless} Three irises in fess argent slipped, conjoined and leaved vert. There is a CD for fielded versus fieldless but nothing for the change to the tincture of the blossoms only. [12a/93, p.15]

[Returning Azure, in pale a heart distilling gouttes d'Or and a stag's skull caboshed argent within a bordure embattled Or.] The device conflicts with ... Vert, a heart Or between the attires of a stag's head cabossed argent, attired, within a bordure embattled Or. There is only one CD for the tincture of the field. The gouttes, the tincture of the horns, and the difference between a stag's skull cabossed and a stag's head cabossed are insufficient for the necessary CD. [12a/93, p.16]

[Returning Azure, a dragon segreant breathing flames within a bordure embattled argent.] Conflict with ... Azure, a dragon argent. There is one CD for the addition of the bordure, but the default posture of a dragon is segreant, and the flames (which should be drawn a little smaller here) are not sufficient for the necessary second CD. [12a/93, p.17]

[Returning Per chevron sable and vert, three mullets of nine points, one and two, and a hulk Or.] Conflict with ... Per chevron sable and vert, in chevron enhanced three compass stars elongated to base and in base a wolf's head cabossed argent. There is a CD for changing the tincture of all the charges, but the only way to grant the second would be to count the change to type and tincture of the bottom most charge separately from the tincture change to the charges in chief. It was not felt that such a "point count" was reasonable here, especially given that the charges have the appearance of a single group of primary charges rather than that of, say, a primary charge and a secondary group of charges. [12a/93, p.18]

There is one CD for the changes to the field but nothing for the difference between rampant and sejant erect guardant. [12a/93, p.18]

[Returning Per pale azure and vert, three swords conjoined in pall throughout between three mullets argent.] Conflict with ... Gules, three swords in pairle hilts inward argent between a fleur-de-lys in chief and a mullet in each flank of the last. There is a CD for the change to the field; however, the change to the type only of one in the group of three secondary charges was sufficient to grant the second CD. (The precedent that several commenters wanted to apply here does not. Propounded in the Cover Letter of September 6, 1990, p. 2, that precedent states:

In this case, we have neither the basemost of three charges, nor are they "alone on the field or around an ordinary". [12a/93, p.18]

[Returning Sable, papelonny argent, an alphyn passant Or.] Visual conflict with ... Vert a heraldic tiger passant Or mane and tuft of the tail argent. There is clearly a CD for the changes to the field, but the visual similarities of the primary charges, combined with the lack of a clear heraldic difference in period, is too strong to grant the necessary second CD. [12a/93, p.18]

Conflict with ... Gules a phoenix Or issuant from flames argent. There is a clear CD for the addition of the bordure but the change to the tincture of the flames, which here constitute no more than one third of the charge, is insufficient for the second necessary CD. [12a/93, p.19]

[Returning Argent, a centipede coiled, head to center, sable.] Conflict with mon illustrated in Matsuya, 109. Though that one is counterchanged and reversed from the one submitted here, there is no difference for reversing the tinctures in "tinctureless" mon nor for reversing the direction of the spiral. [12a/93, p.20]

Conflict with ... Azure, an estoile argent, and with ... Gyronny argent and sable an estoile of seven points argent fimbriated sable. In each case there is a CD for fieldless versus fielded but nothing for the addition or change in tincture of the fimbriation. [12a/93, p.20]

[Returning Vert, issuant from a castle argent, a demi-griffin rampant and in chief three mullets Or.] The device appears to conflict with ... Vert, a tower argent. There is a CD for the addition of the mullets in chief, but nothing for the difference between a castle and a tower, and the demi-griffin here is drawn so small as to be the visual equivalent as a maintained charge. [12a/93, p.22]

Conflict with ... Sable, a sun eclipsed Or. Normally we would be willing to grant a CD between the default six-armed estoile and a sun, but the addition of the tertiary roundel here leaves us with a nearly overwhelming visual similarity. As a consequence, there is only one CD for fieldless versus fielded, and nothing for the type of primary charge nor the tincture of the tertiary roundel. [12a/93, p.22]

Difference (Substantial)

[Returning Vert, a pitcher, flames issuant from the mouth, argent.] Conflict with ... Vert, a flower pot argent with gillyflowers issuant gules, leaved vert. There is a CD for the change to the type of primary, but insufficient difference for X.2 to apply. [6/94, p.13]

[Returning Or, a wingless wyvern statant gules.] Conflict with ... Or, a dragon gules. The only difference is for the removal of the wings. [6/94, p.14]

[Returning Sable, on a chevron between three horses rampant argent, three oak leaves vert.] Conflict with ... Sable, on a chevron argent, three trefoils slipped vert. There is a CD for the addition of the secondaries, but the consensus among the commenters was that there was not the substantial difference required by X.4.j.ii. to grant the necessary second for the change to type of the tertiaries. [5/94, p.18]

[Returning Vert, a heron-headed torque argent.] Conflict with ... Vert, an annulet argent. As in earlier returns of other armory in 1991 and 1992, there is only one CD between a torque and an annulet [not substantial difference]. Additionally, some commenters question whether any artifacts with this type of head have ever been found. [5/94, p.20]

It was the consensus among many of the commenters and those at the Laurel meeting that X.2 should apply between chevrons and chevrons inverted. [4/94, p.6]

[Returning Per bend sinister argent and azure, a lotus blossom in profile and a moose statant contourny counterchanged.] To quote the prior return in the September 1992 LoAR, page 42, "there is a CD for type of primary charges, but because both armories contain a cup-shape flower in dexter chief, we cannot grant sufficient difference of charge per rule X.2" (emphasis added). While there is certainly a CD between the two types of flower, there is not "substantial difference", which is what the application of X.2. requires. As a consequence, the prior conflict must stand, because the type of all of the group of charges is [not] "substantially changed". [4/94, p.16]

[Returning Per pale sable and argent, a fret counterchanged.] Conflict with ... Per pale sable and argent, two double-bitted axes in saltire, fretted with a mascle counterchanged. There is only one CD [not substantial difference] for the changes to the group of primary charges. [4/94, p.18]

[Registering Vert, on a lozenge argent, a cat sejant guardant sable.] Versus ... Vert, on a lozenge between in chief two trefoils slipped argent, a gryphon sejant sable, there is clearly a CD for the removal of the trefoils, and in this case we can see granting the second for the change to the type only of the tertiaries per X.4.j.ii, given the significant change in outline which the eagle's head and wings make to the outline of the critter. [3/94, p.3]

[Returning Per fess argent and gules, a seawolf counterchanged.] Conflict with ... Per fess argent and gules, a sea-unicorn counterchanged. There is clearly a CD for the change to type of the primary charge; however, though we can see applying X.2 to unicorns and wolves, when they both have fish-tails, the differences between them are lessened to such a point that we do not believe X.2 can reasonably be applied. [3/94, p.15]

[Returning Per fess sable and argent, a cross botonny Or charged with a rose gules, barbed and seeded proper.] In keeping with the commentary and subsequent December 1993 return of the badge of Anton Tremayne, the weight of commentary was that this conflicts with ... Gules, a cross bottony voided Or, with one CD for the change to the field but without the necessary second for the change to type only of the tertiary. [3/94, p.17]

[Returning Vert, a pedestalled sundial, and on a chief argent three quatrefoils slipped and leaved vert.] Conflict with ... Vert, a castle argent portalled and masoned sable, on a chief argent three oak leaves vert. There are simply not enough outline or visual differences between this sundial and a tower, or between the tertiary oak leaves and the quatrefoils, to get the necessary two Clear Differences. [I.e. neither difference is substantial.] [3/94, p.20]

[Returning Argent, a serpent glissant palewise sable between flaunches gules.] Conflict with ... Argent, a wingless sea-dragon between two flaunches gules. Though there may be sufficient technical difference, and though there is clearly a CD between [the] serpent and [the] sea-dragon, the visual resemblances between the two lizards are too great to grant sufficient difference here. [3/94, p.20]

[I]t was the opinion of the commenters and those at the Laurel meeting that there is sufficient difference between a sun in its splendor and a leopard's head jessant-de-lys [as tertiaries] to apply X.4.j.ii. for the second CD. [2/94, p.5]

[T]here is a CD for ... the differences between a spider and an ant. While we would probably not grant sufficient difference between the two, when they are used as the primary charge, a CD can be granted. [2/94, p.6]

[Returning Gules, a patriarchal cross bottony throughout Or.] Conflict with ... Gules, a cross botonny Or. There may be a CD for the change to the type of cross, but there cannot be sufficient difference between [them]. [2/94, p.13]

[Returning Or, on a fess sable between three roses azure, three spur rowels Or.] Conflict with ... Or, on a fess sable, three estoiles of the first. There is a CD for the addition of the secondaries, but though the change in type between spur rowels/mullets and estoiles is generally worth a CD, they lack the substantial difference in type necessary to apply X.4.j.ii., which is needed here for the second CD. [2/94, p.17]

As this could equally well be blazoned (as Papworth has done with similar designs), Sable an inescutcheon argent charged with an eagle sable all within a bordure argent semy of lozenges sable, it conflicts with ... Sable an escutcheon argent within a bordure of the last charged with billets of the first. There is one CD for the addition of the tertiary eagle, but because this is not simple armory as defined in RfS X.4.j.2., there is nothing for changing the type only of the tertiary charges on the bordure. [1/94, p.14]

[Returning On a tankard azure a billet Or.] Conflict with ... {Fieldless} On a beaker azure a dolphin hauriant Or. There is one CD for the fieldless difference, but the modest changes in type of primary are insufficient for the second, and X.4.j.ii. does not apply to the difference in type of tertiary charges here. [1/94, p.14]

[Returning Gules, on a flame Or a mullet gules, a chief embattled Or.] Conflict with ... Gules on a sun Or a cross of St. Anthony gules a chief embattled Or. There is one CD for the change to type of the primary charge, but not a second for the change to type only of the tertiaries [implying that there is not substantial or X.2 difference between a flame and a sun]. [1/94, p.16]

[Returning {field} on a key cross throughout argent a county coronet gules.] Conflict with ... Per bend sinister gules and argent, in dexter chief a key cross nowy pierced argent. There is a CD for the field, but the change in position of the cross [in the latter] device is forced by the field. As the cross here is not an ordinary or "similarly simple" geometric design, X.4.j.ii. cannot apply to the change in type only of the tertiary charge. [12a/93, p.20]

Documentation

[Returning Per pale argent and purpure, in pale a Viking tent arch and a unicorn statant counterchanged.] The College has not previously registered a "Viking tent arch" as a charge. As a consequence, this registration ... would be the "defining instance", and we need some documentation for it: either that it appeared in period armory in this form or that it is a period artifact and that this is its standard or typical form. [5/94, p.17]

Estoile

[Returning Or, on a fess sable between three roses azure, three spur rowels Or.] Conflict with ... Or, on a fess sable, three estoiles of the first. There is a CD for the addition of the secondaries, but though the change in type between spur rowels/mullets and estoiles is generally worth a CD, they lack the substantial difference in type necessary to apply X.4.j.ii., which is needed here for the second CD. [2/94, p.17]

Conflict with ... Sable, a sun eclipsed Or. Normally we would be willing to grant a CD between the default six-armed estoile and a sun, but the addition of the tertiary roundel here leaves us with a nearly overwhelming visual similarity. As a consequence, there is only one CD for fieldless versus fielded, and nothing for the type of primary charge nor the tincture of the tertiary roundel. [12a/93, p.22]



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