Aaron Whyteshade. Device. Vert, a panther's head cabossed argent
incensed between two roundels echancré Or.
These aren't roundels echancré, which are roundels with
three semi-circular `bites' taken out of them at equal intervals around the
circumference, but rather something that no-one was able to blazon. If they had
been drawn properly, we would have registered them, for while we have banned
roundels enchancré, the ban doesn't take effect until July 1997. However,
since these were not correctly drawn, this will have to be returned, and any
resubmission which contains roundels enchancré will have to be returned
since it will be after the ban takes place.
Alaric the Amazed. Name.
As was noted in the 4/94 return of Deirdre the Distracted
(Ansteorra), no evidence has been presented to show that fairly abstract past
participles like this were used as nicknames in period. Lacking such evidence, we
must return the name.
Arabella MacLeod. Device. Argent, vetu, a cross of Santiago purpure.
This conflicts with Maelen of Catcott, (SCA) Purpure, on a lozenge argent
a forget-me-not proper., since Arabella's could also be also be blazoned as
"Purpure, on a lozenge throughout argent a cross of Santiago purpure.", leaving
only one CD for change of type of tertiary.
Arik Alton. Household name for Hawk's Haven.
This conflicts with the registered name Shire of Hawk s Haven.
Davey Gray of Kirkcudbright. Name and device. Per bend sinister Or and
erminois, a bend sinister and in dexter chief a natural dolphin gules.
This is being returned for lack of paperwork; no paperwork was included in the
packet. Please inform the submitter that the given name Davey is not period, but
the forms Davy and Davie are acceptable.
Duncan MacKenny. Name.
No documentation was presented in the LoI for MacKenny, and in fact the spelling
MacKenny seems to be a post-period spelling. The forms M'Kinnie (1609) and
M'Kenye (1513) are both dated to within our period, and the form MacKinnie is a
justifiable version. However, depending on which name is chosen, and how it is
pronounced, there could be an aural conflict with Duncan MacKinnon, registered
3/96. Therefore, we are returning this to the submitter to decide which form he
wishes.
Freyja the Cunning. Name.
There is no documentation for the name Freya/Freyja being used for anyone but
the Goddess in our period. SCA given names must be given names used by Human
beings in our period. The byname is also problematic: on the 5/94 LoAR the name
Eirik the Wandering was returned because `[n]o one was able to
document an authentic English byname formed from the present participle of a
word'. Cunning, earlier cunnand, is in origin the
present participle of can `to know'. This is a borderline case, since
it seems to have acquired independent status as an adjective fairly early, but it at
least needs to be mentioned. (By the way, the LoI slightly misleads in appearing to
date cunning to 1382; the actual citation is for
kunnynge.) If she wants an attested English byname, she might try
Slei, Slegh, Sley, le Slege, Sly, etc. These citations,
all from the 13th c., are in Reaney & Wilson s.n. Slay and represent
the modern English sly, from ON sloegr `sly, cunning,
crafty'. Of course, if she returns with an ON forename, the ON byname would be
even better. Its feminine forms would be sloeg and, with the
definite article, in sloega. There are other possibilities if she
prefers another shade of meaning, e.g., gör `skilled,
accomplished' (or in göra `the accomplished'). Another
possibility, this one etymologically related to cunning, is
kunnandi `cunning, knowing, learned' (or in kunnandi).
Freygerðr in sloega (in göra, in kunnandi) would be a
perfectly acceptable ON feminine name.
Geoffrey Glassceld. Name.
A compound of Gaelic and Welsh glas with OE sceld is
unlikely to say the least. It's also against the rules unless evidence for period
use of such bilingual compound bynames can be produced. Modern
blue is borrowed from French bleu, but it was
apparently borrowed by the 13th c.; Blewsheld is a reasonable 13th c.
spelling. (If he really wants glas, Welsh ysgwyd las is
`blue shield' and is analogous to the ysgwyd hir `long shield'
mentioned by Harpy in her Compleat Anachronist pamphlet.)
Granite Mountain, Shire of. Device. Per fess indented vert and sable, a
laurel wreath Or.
This is being returned for several reasons. It needs to be redrawn. As drawn this
does not look like a per fess division but rather like field, a chief. However, that
is not registerable since it would have a vert chief on a sable field, as well as
having the laurel wreath lie on both the field and the chief, which is not
allowed. Another problem is that if this is a per fess field, this has a charge
overlying a complex line of division, when the field is divided into two pieces of
the same tincture class. This greatly reduces recognizability. Finally, this is
technically in conflict with the Shire of Wyndhame, Per pale embattled gules and
Or, in dexter chief a laurel wreath Or. There is a CD for the field. Wyndhame s
wreath could not be in the center of the shield, so by the standing interpretation
of RfS X.4.g. Arrangement Changes the move of the wreath is forced and not
eligible for a second CD.
Ieuan ab y Ddraig goch. Device. Per bend sinister sable and gules, in
dexter chief an escarbuncle of nine points Or charged with a torteau.
This is being returned for a couple of reasons. First, this conflicts with the
badge of Martyn ap Cadwalladr the Bold (SCA), On a sun Or a cross
crosslet fitchy gules. There is one CD for the field, but against a fieldless
badge there can be none for location on the field, and the underlying charge is
too complex for RfS X.4.j.ii to apply. More importantly, even if there was no a
conflict this would have to be returned for violating RfS VII.7.a., which requires
that "Elements must be recognizable solely from their appearance." The college
could not tell what this charge was; guesses ranged from nine dragon's
jambes Or issuant from a torteau, to a sun Or eclipsed gules.
Jane Katherine Beaumont of Cottingham. Device change. Azure, a fess
embattled Or between three Latin crosses formy and a rose argent within a bordure Or.
This was submtted as a blazon appeal. According to the LoI "Her device was
registered in 1/96 as 'Azure, a fess embattled Or between three crosses formy and
rose argent within a bordure Or.' However, the crosses are supposed to be Latin
crosses formy, but Laurel and the CoA felt the length of the lower arms were
not enough to be considered Latin. Careful measurement of the original forms
shows there IS a longer arm on the crosses. I have included new forms which make
the difference clearer yet." The original forms do not show a Latin cross. We
register the picture, not the words. If careful measurement is needed to show
that a cross is Latin, then it is not a Latin cross. If a Latin cross is desired by the
submitter, then it is a device change, and new forms and fees must be submitted.
Since no fees were paid for this, it will have to be returned.
Katherine the Manx of Nyne Tails. Name.
Under Manx, the OED had the following to say. It's a post-period
form of the adjective found as Maniske (i.e., Man-ish) in
the late 16th c. (This is the earliest available citation.) As a noun it is plural; the
earliest form given in the OED is Manks, though even this is first cited from 1688:
Randle Holme referred to the Manks or Manings. Ignoring for the
moment the question of what forms are period, it's still clear that the
Manx is very unlikely: depending on whether Manx is understood as the
adjective or the noun, the name is analogous either to Katherine the
Danish or to Katherine the Danes, neither of which makes
good sense. The 1688 quotation suggests that one of the Manks might have been a
Mank or Maning, but such an inference is at best shaky. First, 1688 is well past
even the Grey Area. Secondly, we can find no evidence that the singular form
Mank was used at all; the earliest singular form that we can find is
Manksman 1702. (We have found no other reference to anything like
Maning; it could even have been Holme's nonce construction.) In
short, it's not clear what an inhabitant of the Isle of Man would have been called
in period, though Mank(e)sman would undoubtedly at least have
been understood in the 16th c.; if we restrict ourselves to attested elements, the
only possible construction is Katherine Maniske, which is analogous
to Katherine English.
The locative byname doesn't really make a lot of sense. Its form makes Nyne Tails a place-name, but I find it very hard to imagine even a hamlet named for nine little plots of ground sticking out of larger, more regular fields, especially when there seems to be no evidence for tail as an English or Scottish place-name element. Perhaps an individual farm might have come to be so known, because it included a field with nine tails, say, but that's more than a little speculative, if only because nine seems an implausibly large number; if we accept such a possibility, we certainly ought to give the rest of the name as period a flavor as possible. The most common topographical prepositions in OE were on and Æt; in later English usage both could become simply a or a'. Granting (a) that Nynetails is a plausible farm name and (b) that farm names are a legitimate class of period locatives, Katherine Maniske a' Nynetails would seem to be possible as a late-period name. We felt, however, that this was too big a change to make without the submitter's consent. The armory was registered under the holding name Katherine of Tir Ysgithr.
Lothar le Coi. Device. Vert, on a lozenge argent a crab tergiant sable.
This conflicts with Amber Lang (SCA), Vert, on a lozenge argent a cat
sejant gardant sable., there is one CD for the substantial change in type
of tertiary charge.
Phoinix of Pucklechurch. Name.
There are several problems with the given name. In the first place, the usual
Latin and English spelling (appropriate with the English form of the place name)
is "Phoenix" as the submitted documentation shows. (This form is
occasionally found in modern German sources.) In the second, though names from
classical epic were used in period, the names usually fall into a definable
category such as a hero from the medieval matter of Troy as was the case with
Hector. We cannot think of any example where the name of peripheral
characters like Phoenix son of Amyntas in the Iliad or divine/semi-divine hero like
Phoenix, the brother of Cadmus and Europa who gave his name to Phoenicia, being
used in the medieval period unless it had passed into the general name pool in
antiquity. That is definitely not the case with Phoenix. Moreover, the most
common meaning for "phoenix" in period was to denote the most definitely
non-human avian who symbolized the self-regeneration of the soul. While this
might make an appropriate byname, we feel that is inappropriate for a given name.
Windy Valley, Shire of. Name and device. Azure chaussé argent, in
pale a laurel wreath vert and an aeolus azure.
Unfortunately, this isn't formed like a period place-name. If the group wants a
name that refers to wind, they might wish to consider Windale or
Winden(e), the latter containing OE denu `valley'
rather than ON dalr `valley'. Since the name was returned, we are
forced to return the armory, since we do not create holding names for groups.
Yin Mei Li. Name.
There are two problems with this name. V.B.2.d clearly says "Summary of
Supporting Evidence - A summary of all supporting evidence provided for the
submission must be included on the letter of intent. Such evidence includes
documentation, permissions to conflict, proofs for entitlement, statements of
support for transferred items, evidence for support in the case of branch
submissions and, in the case of resubmissions or appeals, a history of previous
submissions to the College of Arms, including the dates and grounds for previous
returns. Where possible, the letter should include specific references (including
page numbers) to all supporting documentation." The summary provided was
inadequate for the College to judge the documentation. Furthermore, the
documentation was for the name Yin Mo Lei, with a handwritten note that says
"All instances of 'Mo" should be read as "Mei" and all instances of Mo definition
(Jasmine) should be read as Mei definition (Beautiful)." While there is a lot of
documentation for Yin being a period Chinese name, the documentation for Mo Lei
is, at best, scanty, and when the name becomes Mei Li, there is effectively none.
Karl Helweg. Badge. (Fieldless) A sea-sagittary erect reguardant Or.
This submission has several problems. First, the monster is not in a blazonable
position. If we consider it the position effectively erect, it conflicts with Colin
of Duntamknackan (SCA) (Tinctureless) A merman, bow in dexter and arrow
in sinister hand, tail raised to sinister., and with Vincent of Winterpeak
(SCA) Per pale vert and sable, a mermaid erect embowed drawing a bow
Or. If we consider the position effectively to sinister it conflict with
Mikhail Reubenovic Kopaczewski (SCA) (Fieldless) A mermaid sinister facing
Or., with one CD for fieldlessness, and nothing for the addition of the two
legs. While it is true that we give a difference for addition/removal of wings,
wings are large and occupy as much space as it least half the charge.
Kofryna the Goatherd. Name and device. Gules, a cow contourny and in
chief a decrescent argent, a bordure Or mullety azure.
The name is being returned for lack of documentation. While the LoI states that
the submitter consulted with a native speaker of Lithuanian who told her that
"Kofryna" is the English equivalent of "Katherine", no documentation was
presented for that, nor was any presented that it was a period equivalent, and no
one in the College could find any. The armory is being returned for a redraw, as
it was not clear, even on the large emblazon, whether the animal was a cow as
blazon, or a goat, what the submitter apparently wanted.
Signý Bjarnardóttir. Name.
This conflicts with the already registered Signy Bjanarsdottir (3/87E). The
armory was registered under the holding name Signý of Hindscroft.
Sine ní Dheaghaidh. Badge. [Fieldless] A honeybee Or.
This conflicts with Andre Lessard (SCA) (Fieldless) A legless bee displayed
barry sable and Or, winged Or. Andre's bee is at least 3/4's Or, giving no
difference for tincture, leaving the only countable difference the one for
fieldlessness.
Geoffrey FitzDavid. Device. Or, a chevron gules, in base three
chevronels sable.
This is being returned for using two different sizes of the same charge on the
field.
Lodin of Molde. Device. Quarterly gules and azure, a cross Or, overall a
dragon salient maintaining a burning sword argent, flamed vert.
This is being returned for a redraw. The sword appears to be drawn as on a
flame vert, a sword argent. This breaks tincture with the field, and is not
the style of enflaming which was used in period.
Maurya Etain Sableswan. Badge. Quarterly argent and sable, two winged
Bengal tigers rampant proper winged sable.
This is being returned for having orange tigers. In the cover letter of 3/97 Laurel
said "We are also no longer going to register Bengal tigers proper. They must be
in a standard, heraldic tincture (with or without markings). We have registered
as proper both gules and Or Bengal tigers, leaving them with no default
tincture."
Michelle de Chateaugrenouille. Name. William de Clarence. Name. None!
None!
None!
Aurore de Flandres. Device. Per bend vert and argent, a domestic cat
couchant guardant argent and three wooden drop spindles in bend proper threaded vert. Ja'mala al-Badawiyya. Device. Per bend sable and azure, a sword inverted
bendwise sinister between three compass stars elongated to base argent. Katryne of Bakestonden. Name and device. Quarterly argent and vert,
three owls statant affronty counterchanged.
No documentation of the period usage of the form Chateau
This name conflicts with Duke William of Clarence, who later reigned over
England as William IV. The armory was registered under the name William of
Dragonship Haven.
LOCHAC
MERIDIES
WEST
The following items are pended until the September 1997 meeting:
ATENVELDT
Submitted as Per bend sable and argent, a domestic cat couchant guardant
and three drop spindles in bend sable., this left out the tincture of the
cat, and gave the tincture of half the field and half the charges incorrectly.
The LoI left out the tincture of the charges.
ATLANTIA
Blazoned on the LoI as quarterly vert and argent, etc, it is really quarterly
argent and vert.
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