Collected Precedents of the S.C.A.: Non-Human


Name Precedents: Non-Human

General Issues

Given Names:

Bynames:

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Laurel: Date: (year.month.date) Precedent:
 
General
Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme 1992.08 There are still enough submitters Unclear On The Concept to warrant returning excessive fantasy references, or appearances of magical or non-mortal claims. But the key word is excessive: I think we can henceforth relax our standards a bit. For those names that are well documented as period human names, that also happen to be the names of gods, one armorial allusion to the god will no longer be considered excessive. (Thora of Thescorre, August, 1992, pg. 17)
Baldwin of Erebor 1985.07.14 I observed one fallacy ... in the text of the arguments. The fallacy was expressed in the statement that "the fact that the name thus coined [from human name themes] happens to be a dwarvish name is no barrier to its appropriateness." William and the Bastard may both be correctly combined to form a name, but the result is a recognizable conflict, and is therefore inappropriate. N. is a recognizable dwarf name, and must be dealt with as such. [BoE, 14 Jul 85, p.14]
Wilhelm von Schlüssel 1981.10.26 You may not use the name of a deity unless it passed into common use as a given name in period. WVS [55] [LoAR 26 Oct 81], p. 7
Wilhelm von Schlüssel 1981.01.23 You cannot use names of Middle Earth or Norse dwarves. They were not human. WVS [34] [LoAR 23 Jan 81], p. 9
Wilhelm von Schlüssel 1981.01.23 You cannot use the name of a Norse god or goddess. WVS [34] [LoAR 23 Jan 81], p. 8
Wilhelm von Schlüssel 1980.07.21 Names which are not unique may be used so long as the surnames or sobriquets or place names adequately difference the given name from the famous holder of that name. Names which are unique to a famous entity may not be used, particularly if the entity is non-mortal. WVS [20] [CL 21 Jul 80], p. 4
Wilhelm von Schlüssel 1980.07.21 You cannot claim to be a non-mortal, and the wraith of an elf is definitely non-mortal. WVS [21] [LoAR 21 Jul 80], p. 11
 
Aeron
Elsbeth Anne Roth 2000.05 According to Metron Ariston, Aeron appears in some sources as the name of a Welsh battle goddess and it is certainly the name of a river in Wales; however, no one has been able to find it as a given name for a human in period. Furthermore, the construction of Clan X has been disallowed since June 1998. [Aeron Aschennen of Clan MacKenzie, 05/00, R-Ansteorra]
 
Anu
François la Flamme 2003.10 Ó Corráin & Maguire (p. 22 s.n. Anu: Ana) gives Anu as the name of an Irish goddess and mentions the "virgin St Ana". As Ó Corráin & Maguire specifically indicate that this saint was named Ana, the only documentation for the form Anu is in reference to a goddess. Lacking evidence that Anu was used by normal human women in period, it is not registerable. We have returned this given name to the submitted form Ana in order to register this name. [Ana ingen Áeda, 10/2003, A-Meridies]
 
Dionysos
Da'ud ibn Auda (2nd tenure, 2nd year) 1995.06 Submitted as Dionysos [N], the documentable name is Dionysios ("consecrated to Dionysos"); the submitted form was only used as the name of the God. We have substituted the documented form here. [It seems, after all, to make more than an iota's worth of difference. J] (Da'ud ibn Auda, LoAR June 1995, p. 13)
 
Eos
Elsbeth Anne Roth 2000.03 [Eos Du] To quote Metron Ariston:
As far as I can determine, Eos was never used for a human being in the classical period or later, unlike Aurora, Hercules, Dionysia or Diana. Ηωσ [the Greek letters eta, omega, sigma] or Eos in Greek had the primary meaning of dawn or daylight or daytime. Only in a very secondary manner was the term used for a goddess, the personification of dawn. Indeed, unlike more popular Greek gods who produced theophoric names like Apollodorus or Heracles (Hercules), Eos does not seem to have spawned any names at all in classical Greek. Since most of the names adopted by the classical humanists (e.g., Mars, Hercules and Diana) were from the Latin store and involved deities or demigods who appeared in or were associated with the legendary genealogies of the Roman period, the use of Eos would be highly unlikely. Using it with a Gaelic epithet is even more unlikely. (If someone were going for a humanist name, they would be much more likely to go for a Latin translation with the same meaning. Here it would be likely to be nigra, i.e., black.)
[Eos Du, 03/00, R-Caid]
 
Eve, Aífe, Aoífe
François la Flamme 2002.09 From Pelican: Registerability of the Name Aífe/Aoife

An item this month raised discussion regarding registerability of the name Aoife. Aoife is listed in Ó Corráin and Maguire (p. 16 s.n. Aífe). However, this entry lists only legendary women with this name. Lacking evidence that this name was used by humans in period, this name would not normally be registerable. Nonetheless, it was registered (in the form Aífe) as recently as July of 2001. To date, there have been nine registrations of Aoife and two of Aífe. Of these registrations, only four date from after the previous rules change in November of 1995. Given these numbers, this name does not have the popularity of other SCA compatible names such as Fiona and Ian, and so does not warrant being declared SCA compatible. Therefore, we will stop registration of this name beginning with the April 2003 decision meeting. [Cover Letter for the 09/2002 LoAR]

François la Flamme 2002.09 The name Aoife, including the earlier form Aífe, has only been found as the names of legendary women. Lacking evidence that it was used by humans in period, we will stop registration of this name beginning with the April 2003 decision meeting (see the Cover Letter for more details). [Aoife inghean ui hEaluighthe, 09/2002 LoAR, A-Meridies]
Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme 1993.08 [Aoífe ni Aodhagáin with Chevronelly azure and argent, a serpent glissant palewise gules holding in its mouth an apple slipped and leaved vert] It has been ruled acceptable (Thora of Thescorre, LoAR of Aug 92) to have a single armorial allusion to a deity name that's also a documented period given name. It's reasonable to extend the policy, in this case, to the Biblical name Eve (often used as an anglicization of Aoife). The allusion here is mild, and acceptable. (Aoífe ni Aodhagáin, August, 1993, pg. 6)
 
Fand
Elsbeth Anne Roth 2001.07 While the given name appears in Ó Corráin and Maguire's Irish Names, they say it comes from mythology, the wife of the sea-god Manannán mac Lir. Barring evidence that the name was used by humans in period we have to return this. [Fand Mac Cailin, 07/01, R-Calontir]
 
Muirne
François la Flamme 2004.03 Submitted as Muirne Caitlin Maguire, the submitter requested authenticity for "Northern Ireland 1590" and allowed any changes. [...]

[T]he given name Muirne has been previously returned as being only a legendary name:

Unfortunately, Ó Corráin and Maguire, Irish Names, only cite Muirne as the mother of Finn mac Cumaill -- who, as they note under Finn, was really a Celtic god. The submitter might consider Muirenn instead; Ó Corráin and Maguire say it "was an extremely popular name in the early period". [Muirne inghean Séamus Ó Corcra, 09/00, R-Atlantia]

Lacking evidence that Muirne was used by real people in period, it is not registerable. We have dropped this element in order to register this name. [Caitilín inghean mhic Uidhir, 03/2004, A-Middle]

Elsbeth Anne Roth 2000.09 [Muirne] Unfortunately, Ó Corráin and Maguire, Irish Names, only cite Muirne as the mother of Finn mac Cumaill � who, as they note under Finn, was really a Celtic god. The submitter might consider Muirenn instead; Ó Corráin and Maguire say it "was an extremely popular name in the early period". [Muirne inghean Séamus Ó Corcra, 09/00, R-Atlantia]
 
Neamhain
Elsbeth Anne Roth 1999.08 Ó Corráin and Maguire's documentation for Neamhain lists the name only as an ancient Irish war goddess. Without documentation that humans used this name in period, we must return it. [Neamhain inghean uí hEidirsceóil, 08/99, R-Atlantia]
 
Proteus
Elsbeth Anne Roth 2000.09 Submitted as Proteus of Verona, the only documentation for Proteus was of the Greek Sea-God. Since there was no documentation for the name as a name of a human being, it cannot be used as an SCA name. We have therefore changed it to Protais, a name closely resembling the submitted name. Protais is found in Dauzat's Dictionnnaire Etymologique des noms de famille et des prenoms de France as a form of Protasius, the name of a 1st century Saint and a 6th century French bishop. [Protais of Verona, 09/00, A-Trimaris]
 
Talena
Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane 1989.12.31 [Talena of Evenstar] The use of the given name with this particular byname also created severe twitches amongst the Dragonflight devotees in view of the association of the star with the Threads. (LoAR 31 Dec 89, p. 21)
 
Taranis
Elsbeth Anne Roth 1999.07 Taranis is only documented as the name of a god [Taran Wulf, 07/99, A-Atenveldt]
 
Bynames that indicate Non-Human characteristics
Jaelle of Armida 1999.04 [Snorri Bjarnarson] Submitted as Snorri Vatnsalfur Bjarnarson, Vatnsalfur was glossed as a constructed epithet meaning water-sprite. However, no documentation was presented to show it was an epithet that a human being would using. We have eliminated it in order to register the name and device. (Jaelle of Armida, LoAR April 1999, p. 3)
Da'ud ibn Auda (1st year of 1st tenure) 1991.01 "Submitted as <names> of Moonshaven, the locative does not appear to be a place that a human may be 'of', so we have dropped it to register the name and device." (LoAR 1/91 p.18).
Da'ud ibn Auda (1st year of 1st tenure) 1991.01 "Submitted as <names> of Starfyre, the byname was not something that a person could be 'of' or 'from', so we have dropped it on order to register the name." (LoAR 1/91 p.18).
Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane 1989.12.31 [Talena of Evenstar] The use of the given name with this particular byname also created severe twitches amongst the Dragonflight devotees in view of the association of the star with the Threads. (LoAR 31 Dec 89, p. 21)
Wilhelm von Schlüssel 1981.08.13 Clovenhoof is not an acceptable sobriquet, implying one is a satyr or devil. You cannot justify unacceptable sobriquets by saying your enemies gave it to you. WVS [50] [LoAR 13 Aug 81], p. 10
Wilhelm von Schlüssel 1980.12.29 You cannot be a centaur. You cannot use centaur as a surname. WVS [32] [LoAR 29 Dec 80], p. 7
Wilhelm von Schlüssel 1980.07.21 You cannot be N. Starfarer as that does come too close to implying non-mortal abilities ... I suggest that you consider the name N. Starfollower, which sounds similar, means essentially what you want your name to mean, and is acceptable to the College. WVS [21] [LoAR 21 Jul 80], p. 14
Wilhelm von Schlüssel 1980.04.14 Be cannot be of N., because the N. was a creature and you cannot be of a creature unless you are an offspring of it, which I do not think M. is claiming to be. WVS [15] [LoAR 14 Apr 80], p. 1
Wilhelm von Schlüssel 1980.01.22 Halftrollson is an accepted Viking nickname indicating fierceness, and not parentage. Halfelfson would not be acceptable. WVS [9] [LoAR 22 Jan 80], p. 5
Karina of the Far West 1979.06.30 [N. Starfarer.] A seafarer travels seas; a starfarer travels stars. This implies abilities beyond those of mortals, at least in our period. (KFW, 30 Jun 79 [25], p. 77)
Karina of the Far West 1979.06.30 Your surname means "dragon's traveling companion " This is a little too much to accept from a human being. (KFW, 30 Jun 79 [25], p. 67)
Karina of the Far West 1977.11.11 "De Danann" implies immediate descent from the Goddess we are all human beings in the Society. (KFW, 11 Nov 77 [16], p. 9)
Karina of the Far West 1977.08.18 A Lailat is a succubus, and thus non-human. Do not use as a surname. (KFW, 18 Aug 77 [15], p. 2)
Karina of the Far West 1976.08.20 Do not use the soubriquet Halfling unless you are one. 4'5" is generally considered the maximum height. (KFW, 20 Aug 76 [7], p. 3)
Karina of the Far West 1976.06.16 Surname "Halfelven" REJECTED without proof of parentage. (KFW, 16 Jun 76 [6], p. 9)
Karina of the Far West 1976.06.16 [Giliniel Silmeline.] Change the name with its multiple meaning of "starlight" it sounds too Elvish; unless she can prove that a mortal could have used the name. (KFW, 16 Jun 76 [6], p. 11)
Karina of the Far West 1976.01.30 [N. Basiliskus.] You cannot be "the Basilisk." (The term is a Greek adjective meaning "resembling a king", which was later applied to a nonhuman monster.) (KFW, 30 Jun 79 [25], p. 58)
Harold Breakstone 1970.10.18 [N. Brandybuck.] Name ok, since she isn't saying she's any specific LOTR [Lord of the Rings] Brandybuck. (HB, 18 Oct 70 [7], p. 1)

Placenames:

Laurel: Date: (year.month.date) Precedent:
 
Elvenhome
Karina of the Far West 1978.03.10 You may not call your household "Elvenhome." (KFW, 10 Mar 78 [18], p. 6)
 
Tara
Baldwin of Erebor 1985.09.15 [Reynardine of Tara] The association of Tara with magic and with the kings of Ireland is strong enough that, pending solid evidence refuting it, I must proscribe Tara from SCA use. [BoE, 15 Sept 85, p.13]